The idea that lyrical depth is important is silly and pretentious.
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The idea that lyrical depth is important is silly and pretentious.
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Its important if thats what you like lol. I like the club stuff more but you're wrong to say its pretentious.Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
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Rap with the rude amount of ice and bling, thats not rap. Thats just disgusting.
Rap with a message, thats rap.
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Been to:
Swords Made of Letters - 1938. The war is looming in France - and Alexandre Reythier does not have much time left to protect his country. A novel set before the war.
A Painted Shield of Honour - 1313. Templar Knights in France are in grave danger. Can they be saved?
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Disgusting. And you call yourself a Texan....
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I'm a white middle class British guy who listens to Nirvana and Sinatra, and i quite like rap when there's more to it than nines, bling and bitches.
Also, while we're on the subject of rap, my personal favourite at the moment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
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There are Rappers from texas you dookiehead!!!
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I have to say, "Drop it like it's Hot" was actually pretty nice for me.
HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS
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Not a whole lot, but I dig it's 2nd cousin...
Reggaeton, mijo.
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I was teasing him - we're from the same city in Texas.There are Rappers from texas you dookiehead!!!
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yeah i used to like his stuff alot, but he changed, started making all these corny songs, completely sold out to interscope, and on top of that there is evidence that he started rapping the way he did when he was so awesome, because he took a bunch of other people's styles and put it together.
Examples of his stuff BEFORE he Bit other peoples steez.
Eminem-Infinite(1996)
Eminem-Tonight, and -Maxine. (1996)
After He linked up with a New Jersey group called the Outsidaz (I live in NJ) he totally changed his style due to being in their group.
EX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXjN58aMAZI
Notice he shouts out Outsidaz, and Young Zee and Pace Won, both members of the Outsidaz.
Outsidaz Feat. Eminem-Macosa
Outsidaz Feat. Eminem-Rush Ya Clique
There is also evidence he stole from Cage...some say that its the other way around but i doubt it because Cage came out first.
Cage-Agent Orange
Now examples of the WACKNESSSSS he turned into after he sold out to Interscope.
Just Lose It
Cleanin out my closet
In response to his newfound commercialism and WACKNESS, PaceWon(his old friend from the Outsidaz) Dissed him with this track: Pacewon- Rap Music (eminem Diss)
Granted some of his stuff was good even after he made it big,(especially the songs dissin Benzino and Ja Rule) but he went down hill after a while.
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That's a lot more in depth than I ever thought Eminem was. I'm not a huge fan, I just like a few of his songs.yeah i used to like his stuff alot, but he changed, started making all these corny songs, completely sold out to interscope, and on top of that there is evidence that he started rapping the way he did when he was so awesome, because he took a bunch of other people's styles and put it together.
Examples of his stuff BEFORE he Bit other peoples steez.
Eminem-Infinite(1996
Eminem-Tonight, and -Maxine. (1996)
After He linked up with a New Jersey group called the Outsidaz (I live in NJ) he totally changed his style due to being in their group.
EX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXjN58aMAZI
Notice he shouts out Outsidaz, and Young Zee and Pace Won, both members of the Outsidaz.
Outsidaz Feat. Eminem-Macosa
Outsidaz Feat. Eminem-Rush Ya Clique
There is also evidence he stole from Cage...some say that its the other way around but i doubt it because Cage came out first.
Cage-Agent Orange
Now examples of the WACKNESSSSS he turned into after he sold out to Interscope.
Just Lose It
Cleanin out my closet
In response to his newfound commercialism and WACKNESS, PaceWon(his old friend from the Outsidaz) Dissed him with this track: Pacewon- Rap Music (eminem Diss)
Granted some of his stuff was good even after he made it big,(especially the songs dissin Benzino and Ja Rule) but he went down hill after a while.
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yeah most people dont know about him and outsidaz...i prolly wouldnt if i didn't live in New Jersey.
Eminem never responded back to the diss from his old friend PaceWon. He had beef with Canibus too and his diss track was better than Canibus's response, but after Em said a bunch of stuff talkin crap about him on a video, Canibus Responded back and totally destroyed him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMuDpffr_w0
He destroys him on this one too (ZOMG he kills him so bad!!!) Curriculum 101
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It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
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I completely agree with thatOriginally Posted by edyzmedieval View Post
Rap with the rude amount of ice and bling, thats not rap. Thats just disgusting.
Rap with a message, thats rap.
You my friend, sound like the type to dig Immortal Technique
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You might wanna listen to Aesop Rock, The Puppet Masterz, The Disposable Heroes of Hipocracy (rare but awesome, Mike Franti used to be MC), Meat Beat Manifesto, Food for Animals and the like. DJ Dangermouses "Grey Album" may be of special interest!
Generally speaking:
Besides all sorts of sound I have a very close relation to HipHop/ Rap. There are artists like Gangstaar, A Tribe Called Quest, The Beasties, EPMD, Eric B. and Rakim, Dre, Snoop, Knderzimmer Productions (German), The Pharcyde, Timbaland, to name but a few.
There is good rap music out there, but 2 all of those bling bling shouting braindamaged hooligan rappers shouting over some mobile phone samples...my illustrious arse!
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I like it, but mostly semi-underground kinda stuff. Like this. Or something more old-school like Jedi Mind Tricks. None of that gangsta or MTV stuff for me, no sir.
The purpose of a fish trap is to catch fish, and when the fish are caught, the trap is forgotten. The purpose of a rabbit snare is to catch rabbits. When the rabbits are caught, the snare is forgotten. The purpose of words is to convey ideas. When the ideas are grasped, the words are forgotten. Where can I find a man who has forgotten words? He is the one I would like to talk to.
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Agreed, now if only my friends would see the light.
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Most of it isn't really my thing but I can enjoy some rap.
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Actually, no. IT seems to be very militant, whilst Flobots are pacifist. Plus, I find Flobots more musically appealing.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
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Rap is not for me, but I do dig one artist who raps, like an old soul record:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpdzEpGIqtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U5oU8KdE3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaScfSldBAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30QtMpCnmS4
Wiki link
This is beyond rap though. I'm not sure how it would be classified. One clip seems to be from a jazz show. Anyway, a very underrated bassist/songwriter. Luv her style, luv her stuff ...
(and loved those nights of endless dancing with you, Chile, wherever you are!)
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Concentrate on purity of intent
While those around you are beset by egoism
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Masamune, that's pretty cool stuff. Never heard of 'r, but I dig it
The purpose of a fish trap is to catch fish, and when the fish are caught, the trap is forgotten. The purpose of a rabbit snare is to catch rabbits. When the rabbits are caught, the snare is forgotten. The purpose of words is to convey ideas. When the ideas are grasped, the words are forgotten. Where can I find a man who has forgotten words? He is the one I would like to talk to.
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I listen pretty much everything coming out. I'm hungry for the music, so producers are more important for me than the artists singing whatever they sing. I also listen a lot of instrumental mixtapes. Whole DMX discography is great. M.O.P., Cypress Hill, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, I have been listening everything from them for a long time now. Nas had great albums till Street's Disciple album came out. Luda has some great stuff and Wu Tang also.
I mean I haven't been listening the lyrics for over 8 years now. It's all about the beats, the music. All that Beefing and throwing punch lines between various artist, was kind of fun few years ago. At least some of the best beats are on the background of those tracks.
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after seeing Tom Cruise hilarious dance to a rap song on the movie Tropic Thunder my respect for rap is kinda restored...and for Tom Cruise also....man that was funny
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ur gonna like Raekwon's Only Built for Cuban Linx 2 it has beats produced by NECRO!!!!
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http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=0uQ_X6nQ8xk
Odd video of a song with the most striking lyrics wrote in french for the last thirty years. (damn it's already ten years old. Si I am....)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=-hhi-l...eature=related
la Rumeur, le monde ivre", "the drunk world". by far the best lyrics in contemporary french rap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rumeur
and also http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=R0AKWW...eature=related also ten years old, alas.... a song about one of the band's leader going back to Togo, and being treated a nigger by his cousins, felling like sitting between two chairs.
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SICK!!!!!
Never Say Never At All
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Don't know how many of you have heard this. I think it's quite unique. Great music.
Joe Budden - Walk With Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuZQxyeAbFM
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There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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