Original vs. Warlord

[Togakure]

... Your opinion that it's just a matter of preference means that you don't hold an objective standard.

You are correct. I try to balance objectivity with subjectivity in most judgments. There is value in both qualitative and quantitative analyses. We are humans after all.

If you had played STW/MI v1.00 online as I did you would have seen just how strong NC were and that I'm not exaggerating at all. They were a WM with more armor, higher speed and lower cost. The spear disadvantage was a non-factor because the WM could take care of the spears while the NC avaoided them by virture of its higher speed. NC + WM armies dominated the gameplay. This combination was unstoppable. We had to chop 2 combat points from the NC in v1.02 to bring it into a better balance with the other units.

I wasn't talking about 1.00 from the get-go. The original dialog that led to my comment was that NCs in 1.02 were "monks on horses." I disagreed with that, having played and still playing much 1.02. Maybe I wasn't clear in my second post.

The title of the thread is correct. It's my attempt to fix v1.02 Why are you assuming that I would use v1.02 as the basis? ...

It was the way my perceptions flowed from Wilbo's post, the link, and reading what you wrote. I didn't notice that you'd started with another stat; I just looked at the monk and NC stats and went "???".

... I hope that your not going to take the position that there is nothing wrong with v1.02. The fact that you had to use "rules" to limit certain units in multi-player shows that there are significant problems with the v1.02 stat. There were no rules governing army purchase needed in STW v1.12.

Certainly not. 1.02 is flawed, and even the rules didn't completely address the flaws. But the rules made it quite playable. Despite its flaws, many players enjoyed many, many games over an extended period of time. This emphasizes my point about objectivity and subjectivity.

Peace, Puzz. I was operating on little sleep yesterday. Hence, my initial post must have come off more critical than I intended it to. Again, you are the unquestioned authority here on STW technical matters. However, you might want to consider my point about balancing objectivity and subjectivity. It might make it easier to understand those who tend to take the opposite view in discussions like these.

All the best.