About time someone stands up to Scientologists

[Strike For The South]

So we have

Lady vounltary signs up for what she believes will give her peace of mind
Lady gives money
Lady feels no spiritual connection with anything
Lady sues

If this were a normal religion it would be thrown out but since its something like Scientology its a valid case...give me a break. Most of these people qualify for Darwin awards and now when its convenient we say they are duped? There have been threads her before were followers of this religion have been called some not so nice names for being blind and stupid.

[lars573]

You really don't how Scientology works do you? You don't give money. You buy products and services. Books, various pills and tonics, tests. So on and so forth as you climb the ladder of the mystery cult. These goods and services aren't cheap either. Oh sure they'll sell you a theton test for $50. Or a soft cover of dianetics for $40. Those and the promises of fullfilment are just the hook. But the higher you go the more zeroes your adding.

[Strike For The South]

You really don't how Scientology works do you? You don't give money. You buy products and services. Books, various pills and tonics, tests. So on and so forth as you climb the ladder of the mystery cult. These goods and services aren't cheap either. Oh sure they'll sell you a theton test for $50. Or a soft cover of dianetics for $40. Those and the promises of fullfilment are just the hook. But the higher you go the more zeroes your adding.

and she was dumb enough to sign up and keep giving cash? I didnt know the French took cases based on stupitidy

Religons have been doing this for years. Bigotry Bigotry Bigotry

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Scientology always been a joke. I can't understand why people do it....

[Fragony]

Scientology always been a joke. I can't understand why people do it....

It's about as silly as believing that men is responsible for climate change

HAIL GLOBAL WARMING

[Tribesman]

and she was dumb enough to sign up and keep giving cash? I didnt know the French took cases based on stupitidy

Most fraud cases are based on stupidity .

[Ice]

I'm going to agree with strike here.

[TB666]

and she was dumb enough to sign up and keep giving cash? I didnt know the French took cases based on stupitidy

So ??
The law protects all, even those that are stupid.

[Rhyfelwyr]

and she was dumb enough to sign up and keep giving cash? I didnt know the French took cases based on stupitidy

Religons have been doing this for years. Bigotry Bigotry Bigotry

You can't seriously compare Scientology to the more traditional religions. The closest thing that I can think of in Christianity to the money-grabbing methods of Scientology were the indulgences which the Roman Catholic church encouraged. But Christianity had the Reformation and solved this problem. Maybe that's just what Scientology needs!

[Sigurd]

You can't seriously compare Scientology to the more traditional religions. The closest thing that I can think of in Christianity to the money-grabbing methods of Scientology were the indulgences which the Roman Catholic church encouraged. But Christianity had the Reformation and solved this problem. Maybe that's just what Scientology needs!

Actually as I mentioned earlier, the early church was quite the money grabber and the punishment for holding on to some of the money was harsh.
Let me present two pieces from the New Testament:

Acts 2:44-45

And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Acts 5:1-11

But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

[InsaneApache]

Sounds like old Pete did a bit of smiting.

[Ronin]

Actually as I mentioned earlier, the early church was quite the money grabber and the punishment for holding on to some of the money was harsh.
Let me present two pieces from the New Testament:

Acts 2:44-45

And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Acts 5:1-11

But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

God is a Communist!!!!

how the worm turns....

[Husar]

Eh, no, I read it up and noticed a few things, the first passage you quoted, Sigurd, says theysold their stuff on their own will and gave money to the poor, nothing says that the church got any money or even demanded that.

The second passage is about how that guy pretended to give a whole lot of money to god but actually gave less than he wanted the others to think and in my bible he just drops dead so god killed him, just like his wife. In your quote it sounds like the men killed him and god made his wife drop dead which seems a bit weird because a) that would mean god directly punished his wife but not him and b) that would mean the new testament would advertise murder/say murder is okay when the church does it but I'm pretty sure that can't be it and my bible(in german) has it a bit different anyway unless I completely misunderstood that ancient english you posted there.

[PBI]

So we have

Lady vounltary signs up for what she believes will give her peace of mind
Lady gives money
Lady feels no spiritual connection with anything
Lady sues

If this were a normal religion it would be thrown out but since its something like Scientology its a valid case...give me a break. Most of these people qualify for Darwin awards and now when its convenient we say they are duped? There have been threads her before were followers of this religion have been called some not so nice names for being blind and stupid.

You could equally well argue, that the Scientologists sold this woman a product and the product didn't do as advertised. Surely in that case she's entirely within her rights to sue them over it?

Much as I love a good rant on the evils of religion in general and Scientology in particular, seems to me the religious connection is actually quite incidental. Seems like a simple case of false advertising; it's much like the law that was recently passed here in the UK requiring fortune tellers, mediums and the like to describe themselves as "entertainers" rather than claiming to actual be able to predict the future or contact dead people.