CTD upon inspection of enemy family members

**Tollheit** · 09-10-2008, 22:35

After infiltrating enemy settlements with a spy, when I try to check the traits & ancillaries of enemy FMs, certain FMs trigger a reproducible CTD.
This has happened with FMs who where no problem some turns earlier, but once it happens, they seem to be bugged for lifetime.
Is this a known issue?

This is one of the offenders, just one or two turns before he started a career in the CTD business:

**bovi** · 09-11-2008, 07:25

That is a sign of a trait (or ancillary, I guess) that is missing its description, like the Dignitas back in 1.0 that made the game crash with the roman starting faction leader occasionally... However, I am pretty certain that I caught all those mismatches in 1.1 (I created a validation program for it), so no it's not a known issue. You don't have any unofficial mod that changes traits, do you?

**Tollheit** · 09-11-2008, 12:13

I'm using Ferromancer's EB with BI, however I am not sure if I'm using his EDCT or the one from the original 1.1 fixes. I should keep better track of changes...
Oh, and I messed with the triggers myself, as detailed in my EDTC thread.

Btw, the FM pictured above suffered a crushing defeat just before he became bugged, so maybe it is a trait or ancillary with a trigger connected to that.

**Foot** · 09-11-2008, 15:59

Well if you've edited the edct then it really is impossible for us to tell, but the problem probably lies there.

Foot

**Tollheit** · 09-11-2008, 16:09

Well I've only edited triggers, and Bovi seemed to approve of the changes.
Or are you referring to the EB with BI mod?

**Foot** · 09-11-2008, 17:00

Either, but it is very unlikely its something from 1.1. Bovi and the traiters know their stuff and it likely would have been picked up before now by someone else.

Foot

**Tollheit** · 09-11-2008, 17:06

Now I have reapplied the Client ruler potential fix, in order to obtain clean edct and export_VnVs.txt files, but the game still crashes when I try to inspect that FM.
Does that change your assessment?

**bobbin** · 09-11-2008, 18:31

slightly off topic but isn't the family member trait supposed to be hidden?

**Foot** · 09-11-2008, 20:48

Woah, you can't change the edct mid-campaign. That just musses very thing up. Changing the triggers is apparently fine, but we don't know if you had installed a file that altered any of the actual traits.

Foot