Gastrophetes

[Celtic_Punk]

I reckon it wouldnt be that hard to do it... animations would be a problem obviously, but you wouldn't have to make it a siege weapon so you could put it on the walls. maybe an idea for EBII?

it would also balance things historically since greeks have a disadvantage on the walls with the hoplites, seeing as you can reach much further than bowshot with a gastrophetes and it has well over twice as much power than a normal bow

[Maion Maroneios]

XGM uhas Gastraphetes, IIRC. The problem, I think, is that it's use wouldn't be that widespread and often as to be included in EB.

Maion

[Zarax]

XGM has gastraphetes, however they are made to be in quite limited numbers as they are quite powerful.
A potential syracusean faction should be entitled to use these guys as they originated there.

Also, for the rarer units kestros slingers could be a possibility.

[Maion Maroneios]

they are quite powerful

Say that again! I remember, the time I was playing XGM, I once played with a full stack of those guys against a full stack of the best legionaries of Rome. Guess what? I didnt lose a single man, while I obliterated the whole Roman army! They didnt even get close to my guys

Maion

[Celtic_Punk]

thats why i want them

[Foot]

Its very unlikely that Gastrophetes will appear ingame. Their only reported use in classical literary was several decades before our time and there is no indication that they were anything but a specialist weapon with little military significance. Unit slots are slim as it is and to spend them on a specialist unit such as the Gastrophetes, who would have limited recruitment potential, would be a rare choice. That is not to say they never will be in, but they had been discussed in reference to EBI, but the decision was not to include them.

Foot

[Zarax]

I tend to agree with Foot, way too exotic for EB1 as unit spaces are better allocated somewhere else.
XGM gets them because of its specialization on hellenistic powers at (the sometimes unfortunate) expense of others.

EDIT: Implementation in itself for a submod is not so hard, just use the crossbowman skeleton from BI and you're set.

[Aemilius Paulus]

XGM has gastraphetes

Please excuse me for my ignorance, but what's XMG?

[Zarax]

It's the Extended Greek mod, look in my sig.

[AlexanderSextus]

so who invented the crossbow first? The Chinese with the Lian Nu or the Greeks with the Gastrophetes????

[Foot]

They were separate inventions. Just as the eye developed twice in nature the crossbow developed twice in history.

Foot