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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    This is too much authority for any one nation...
    It is the ultimate in realpolitik, and I could hardly criticize the United States for attempting to practice a policy I believe in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    It is the ultimate in realpolitik, and I could hardly criticize the United States for attempting to practice a policy I believe in.
    It's a lot easier to believe when you're not "an area of interest".
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    It's a lot easier to believe when you're not "an area of interest".
    Well, if you're getting screwed over, do something realistic to stop what's going on. It works both ways.

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    Well, if you're getting screwed over, do something realistic to stop what's going on. It works both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    It is the ultimate in realpolitik, and I could hardly criticize the United States for attempting to practice a policy I believe in.
    Bah, the same lines could be used to justify the need for Lebensraum. Realpolitik works fine and is a decent concept but within certain limits...
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    I'm with Tribesman.

    People are not being sent to court where they are tried for their crimes with use of such things as evidence and due process. They (along with many around them who are often children) are killed from afar as one country says they're terrorists - with no recource to international or local justice or even evidence.

    Of course this is going to make things worse - but it quick and simple in the short term, which is all that appears to matter. Taking to court and proving anything is long and expensive.

    I fail to see how "winning" is supposed to occur. Invading, bombing and killing with the occasional "look, we've rebuilt your school - aren't we nice?" can be answered by "yes, and filled the cemetary..." will mean that on withdrawl there's no much distrust and dislike against a country that only a few years ago most will not have even heard of any terrorist organisation will have plentiful supplies of eager recruits.

    Yes, nothing is better than this.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    Fire wildly into the air?
    If that's what you do best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Bah, the same lines could be used to justify the need for Lebensraum. Realpolitik works fine and is a decent concept but within certain limits...
    Well, the Lebensraum idea was both unnecessary and backfired, and was therefore not realpolitik. Realpolitik is realism. If you can realistically do something and gain from it, and it is necessary, go ahead. Lebensraum was not a realistic goal, or necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    Well, the Lebensraum idea was both unnecessary and backfired, and was therefore not realpolitik.
    NOTHING IS NECESSARY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    NOTHING IS NECESSARY.
    We've crossed the line from politics to philosophy with this statement.

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