well unless therer is alternative fuel source discovered, then tanks could be rendered obsolete by reason of them not being able to move. granted Oil will not run out with in the nexy 5 years or anything like that But it will eventually run out.
Re: The Tank and it's future.
well unless therer is alternative fuel source discovered, then tanks could be rendered obsolete by reason of them not being able to move. granted Oil will not run out with in the nexy 5 years or anything like that But it will eventually run out.
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Re: The Tank and it's future.
The same could be said about cars, ships, airplanes, plastics and probably a lot of other things.Originally Posted by Tiberius of the Drake
Personally I'm looking forward to steam-powered airplanes (without DRM).
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The third reich invented had an alternative fuel, liquefied coal. Seriously we can make octane or diesel fuel from all sorts of sources, (soybeans, turkey guts, coal, wood...). And we will never squeeze the last drop of oil out of shale. Fuel prices will skyrocket as oil supplies diminish, but we will never exhaust all the oil.
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Flying Tanks, that's the ticket.
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One of the beautiful things about tanks is that the engines are designed to have a high tolerance for low quality fuels. From what I understand most Russian tanks could be powered off a kerosene/diesel mix though with worse performance. I know that the M1 Abrams can use almost any type of fuel because it uses a bloody turbine engine.
Just bear in mind that there is a reason why the US maintains a strategic reserve of oil though it will be interesting to see how they plan to power tanks in the future if they decided to go away from oil based fuels.
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I think tanks will always be around. Who's going to cover all of the open ground between cities and towns? Effectively engage enemy vehicles and withstand a fair amount of punishment in return. Yes technology is getting better at destroying them from fairly decent distances. Infantry AT weapons are definitely improving but not to mention the tank's armor and defense technology and vision capabilities. The Israelis are working on a type of AT-Round measure that creates a sort of "force field" around the tank and detonates RPG's and the like. In urban combat, tanks can act as mobile building busters while medium and light vehicles like the Bradley and Striker are much better suited to some degree, but no real vehicle is not suited to the intensity of warfare that is urban combat. We saw that example in the battles of Stalingrad, Berlin, in operations against defensive positions in the fluid battles of North Africa, and main offensive operations like Goodwood, Kursk showed how they could flop on their heads against a dug in and determined enemy while the battle of 73 Easting showed how powerful a technological superior and motivated armored force can demolish an enemy force of about near equal size on the battlefield. I haven't really been able to study the Arab-Israeli Wars but from what I do know, the tank played a dominant role and crucial role in the out come of a majority of the wars that took place between both sides.
Obviously I was looking at conventional warfare between two waring nations like what we saw recently in Georgia of sorts. Right now, the main and dominate warfare is one against a group of people who could strike at any moment. This type of warfare negates any advantage a modern day tank may have such as the Abrams, the Challenger, or the Leopard. The way in the war in Iraq has been flowing was that when the fighting was at its peak in '04-'05, tanks were good in demolishing, rather quickly, enemy strongholds and buildings, but as the fighting has subsided, we see light vehicles and IFV's doing most of the heavy lifting while tanks are kind of collecting dust. In Afghanistan, they have a better chance due to most of the fighting taking place in mostly open terrain at decent ranges where a tank's main gun can effectively come into play.
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Weren't it mainly Israeli airplanes (from the US) that obliterated hundreds of tanks?
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