No.. it can't be.

**Terraforce** · 09-21-2008, 16:39

This is the perfect example of a siege gone wrong. So I'm playing as Baktria and right now I am in India. I was sieging the town for a few years building siege towers, ladders and a sap point. They had one general whom I had failed to assassinate a few turns before. They had a few units of pikes, missile calvary, regular calvary, a lot of archers and two units of Indian elephants. Exactly 1658 soldiers. Long story short I lost both my leader, my heir along with some 2830 men and got a crushing defeat. That entire army consisted of units I have had since the start of the game with some silver and bronze cheverons thrown in there. Also some great leadership. I have no pics because my print screen button is being stupid. Took me twenty years to assemble that army in a blink of an eye it was gone. I won't be reloading because I have decided to play a no reloads campaign.

**Ravenic** · 09-21-2008, 16:49

In history, that would be the point where a nation goes into decline and never recovers, lol.

Good job not reloading.

**Valion** · 09-21-2008, 16:59

Lol..... just re-load you'r autosave.

**Hax** · 09-21-2008, 17:21

They had a few units of pikes, missile calvary, regular calvary, a lot of archers and two units of Indian elephants.

Yeah, especially this part. I know *exactly* what you mean.

**Timoleon** · 09-22-2008, 08:14

I'm just curius, what was the composition of your 2830-men army? I guess you didn't have enough Thureophoroi or peltasts (to win the wall battle) and archers/slingers to kill the elephants from the safety of the walls.

**Chris1959** · 09-22-2008, 08:25

Should have starved them out.

**Tellos Athenaios** · 09-22-2008, 14:24

Originally Posted by Timoleon

I'm just curius, what was the composition of your 2830-men army? I guess you didn't have enough Thureophoroi or peltasts (to win the wall battle) and archers/slingers to kill the elephants from the safety of the walls.

Reconsider that statement when looking at the actual army composition of those Indos valley cities.... By the time those cities have sorted their recruitment out, then those armies are worthy of a human player. Actually it is one of the few areas where the slave AI does recruit some pretty nasty armies, armies I could've thought of myself for a highly effective campaign army.