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    Question No client rulers

    I just started playing 1.1. I got rid of the client rulers section of the script. What effect will this have on the game? I want the shorter turn times; I am just curious what I am missing or how the game will change.

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    EB TRIBVNVS PLEBIS Member MarcusAureliusAntoninus's Avatar
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    Default Re: No client rulers

    Well, first of all, you won't have client rulers.
    The game will be faster, but not too much faster than the client ruler optimization script already did.
    Since the client ruler script could cause bugs, you won't encounter those.


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    Default Re: No client rulers

    You can also create your own client rulers by using the console to turn recruited generals into client rulers.
    It began on seven hills - an EB 1.1 Romani AAR with historical house-rules (now ceased)
    Heirs to Lysimachos - an EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR with semi-historical houserules (now ceased)
    Philetairos' Gift - a second EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR


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    Default Re: No client rulers

    Are you still able to build type 4 goverment without the client rulers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppis View Post
    Are you still able to build type 4 goverment without the client rulers?
    Yes, you can build them. Just don't get a "free" client ruler appearing the next turn.
    It began on seven hills - an EB 1.1 Romani AAR with historical house-rules (now ceased)
    Heirs to Lysimachos - an EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR with semi-historical houserules (now ceased)
    Philetairos' Gift - a second EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR


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    Default Re: No client rulers

    Client rulers are causing extreme CTDs with every EB campaign I've played. It is extremely frustrating, but they are such an important part of the governance system that you can't really do without them for provinces further out. At least, I miss them. It would be really nice to work out what is causing all the CTDs.



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    EBII Hod Carrier Member QuintusSertorius's Avatar
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    Default Re: No client rulers

    You can still have client rulers even without the script spawning them. Build your type IV. Use process_cq to get your regional MIC to level five. Recruit a general. Use the console to give them the Client Ruler trait. If desired, destroy your regional barracks and start again.

    Client rulers without the bug-causing script.
    It began on seven hills - an EB 1.1 Romani AAR with historical house-rules (now ceased)
    Heirs to Lysimachos - an EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR with semi-historical houserules (now ceased)
    Philetairos' Gift - a second EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR


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    Default Re: No client rulers

    Can you avoid the bugs/CTDs by simply not building any lvl 4 goverments, or do you still need to remove it from the script?

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    Default Re: No client rulers

    Quote Originally Posted by Poppis View Post
    Can you avoid the bugs/CTDs by simply not building any lvl 4 goverments, or do you still need to remove it from the script?
    It's something to do with the script and it's "check every single settlement to see if there's a client ruler there" business.
    It began on seven hills - an EB 1.1 Romani AAR with historical house-rules (now ceased)
    Heirs to Lysimachos - an EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR with semi-historical houserules (now ceased)
    Philetairos' Gift - a second EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR


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    Default Re: No client rulers

    Sorry to bother you like this but search is not coopertating with me today.

    I vaguely remember that you had to delete some lines from the EB script, but was it that simple, or was there something else you also had to do to remove them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppis View Post
    Sorry to bother you like this but search is not coopertating with me today.

    I vaguely remember that you had to delete some lines from the EB script, but was it that simple, or was there something else you also had to do to remove them?
    It's easy. Copy EBBS.txt and rename the copy (it's your backup in case you mess something up). Open up EBBS.txt. Delete everything between the Puppet Rulers and Reforms title blocks. That's from about line 175 to about 175000. Save and close.
    It began on seven hills - an EB 1.1 Romani AAR with historical house-rules (now ceased)
    Heirs to Lysimachos - an EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR with semi-historical houserules (now ceased)
    Philetairos' Gift - a second EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR


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    Default Re: No client rulers

    Oh, it was that easy.

    Thanks.

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