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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarkus View Post
    Mulceber, this is a topic that has received alot of attention in historical posts...I suggest you search the forums to get the full body of information. For example, check out this thread.

    Yes, command stars do have a positive effect on the outcome of battles...especially in auto-calc. But when you're in control, you're much better off having a general that gives lots of morale bonuses (which boost the performance of his entire army) instead of one with lots of command stars (which boosts the performance of a subset of his army that is in closer proximity to him).
    you have it reversed...command stars give an entire army a bonus to defense; morale bonuses (not ones through traits though) affect units within a certain distance (30 m + 5 m * command + 2 m * influence) of the general
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantu View Post
    you have it reversed...command stars give an entire army a bonus to defense; morale bonuses (not ones through traits though) affect units within a certain distance of the general
    Hmmm...in the thread I reference above, I quote from Foot:

    "Morale affects all units on the battlefield, command only affects the morale of units within a small radius of your general."

    Nothing personal ...but I believe Foot.
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    IIRC, Foots comment was before Gerome clarified the way command works...

    see this thread:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...42#post1677142
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    How else do you get morale bonuses except through traits? Through command stars? In which case Tarkus's comments stand as correct. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) that command stars give morale bonuses within a radius, whereas traits give a morale bonus for your entire army. Your comments that defence from command stars are applied across the entire army do not apply to his point.

    As it is, if we started again, I think we would change our stance on command stars (in particular not give CS boosts to enemy generals, but instead give them morale boosts through traits). However we've moved on.

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    i took his comment as meaning that morale bonuses from triats affect the entire army but bonuses from command stars only apply in close proximity to the general. although Geromes post is a little vague in areas, i take it to mean that command stars increase the defense stats of the entire army, while the morale bonus (based on the amount of stars? this is where its vague) affects units within a radius of (30 m + 5 m * command + 2 m * influence) from the general

    we may all be saying the same thing in different ways...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantu View Post
    we may all be saying the same thing in different ways...
    Yeah, I think we are...and we've wandered away from Mulceber's original query...and probably scared him off in the process!

    This is a bit of a confusing issue, with parallel issues of attack vs. defense and traits vs. stars wandering through this forum. A read through your linked thread, mcantu, including your quotes from JeromeGrasdyke, leads me to stand by my conclusion. I still think command stars are over-rated...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarkus View Post
    Yeah, I think we are...and we've wandered away from Mulceber's original query...and probably scared him off in the process!

    This is a bit of a confusing issue, with parallel issues of attack vs. defense and traits vs. stars wandering through this forum. A read through your linked thread, mcantu, including your quotes from JeromeGrasdyke, leads me to stand by my conclusion. I still think command stars are over-rated...
    Well I think they are extremely underated by a lot of people. The stat and morale bonuses they give in a large range can really pull you through incredible odds.

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