Another School shooting in Finland

[Fragony]

A major tragedy. It was a bit unnerving that no finnish poster put it up yesterday. Such a waste of life

[HoreTore]

He looks a bit like you, Kage. Something you want to tell us, perhaps?



yes, I shamelessly stole that from mouza...

[Kagemusha]

He looks a bit like you, Kage. Something you want to tell us, perhaps?



yes, I shamelessly stole that from mouza...

Well im still alive.He is not.Well all joking aside.I think these things are very alarming and here the discussion is going heavily in direction of banning small arms, while i dont think it is because of gunlaws that these people are dead.I think the problem is in our society.

[HoreTore]

How 'bout the combination of vodka and saunas?

[Fragony]

I think the problem is in our society.

How so? I don't think you can prevent things like this.

[Martok]

Yeah, I was shocked to read that in the news yesterday -- my condolences to the victims and their families. I always have a hard time picturing tragic events like that occurring in Scandinavia for some reason, even though I know it's not an isolated incident.

I think the problem is in our society.

I second Fragony's question: Why do you think that? There's always going to be disturbed individuals with violent intentions, no matter what you do.

[Innocentius]

I always have a hard time picturing tragic events like that occurring in Scandinavia for some reason, even though I know it's not an isolated incident.

Well, it didn't take place in Scandinavia...

I don't know what to feel about it. I've grown apathetic to this kind of news and I was neither surprised nor shocked when I read the headlines. I have no relatives in that part of Finland from what I know, so...

[Louis VI the Fat]

I un-second Fragony's question!

Social choices of every society go a long way to explaining why tragedies like this happen. Not guns or an abundance of disturbed individuals are the reason for the difference in levels of violence between South Africa and Iceland, but society at large. Compare, for example, a good road network. A few tragic random occurences, or individual maniacs, are always the direct cause for car accidents. But a good road network, build for safety, goes a long way to preventing car accidents. Better roads mean less accidents. More and better law enforement mean more law-abiding drivers. This means less road rage, which leads to a more respectful driving culture. Etcetera. Society always has a choice.

[Kadagar_AV]

Finland is not part of Scandinavia...

Finland needs to have another look at their gun laws...

Oh well, for every school shoot out, I noticed that the bullies play a bit more nice for a while... Not everything is bad.

[Viking]

Finland is not part of Scandinavia...

Finland needs to have another look at their gun laws...

Oh well, for every school shoot out, I noticed that the bullies play a bit more nice for a while... Not everything is bad.

It's bound to happen in Scandinavia sooner or later anyway.

[Strike For The South]

Finland is not part of Scandinavia...

Finland needs to have another look at their gun laws...

Oh well, for every school shoot out, I noticed that the bullies play a bit more nice for a while... Not everything is bad.

This has to do with the society at large nothing to do with guns. I can't speak for Finland but here in America I have come to the conclusion that our society makes this happen mainly by the way we retard emotional expression esp. at a young age. I dont understand how people think legal firearms make people go crazy. It doesn't make sense

[Sigurd]

I heard on the radio that the Police had him in for questioning the day before the shooting because of some disturbing youtube videos where he shoots with his Walter P-22 gun and displaying the slogan : "You will die next"...
Not much unlike Pekka last year.

I guess there will not be a third time.

[Fragony]

If you are going to treat it as a social problem you are only inviting more nutjobs to make a statement. It isn't, just a crybaby and a copycat. Feel sorry for the finnish must be very traumatising to have this happening twice in such a small time.

[Kralizec]

My condolences to the families of the victims.

What kind of a sad narcisist do you have to be to show off your gun skilz on youtube before killing several people randomly and cut your miserable life short before people will hold you accountable?

I don't think that there's something specific about Finland that encourages these kinds of things (except lots of guns) and that it's probably copycat behaviour from TV and internet, but that's just my guess.

[Kadagar_AV]

Well, if a guy is making threatening videos on the net, then I find it a bitt odd that the law allows him to keep his weapon...

He was in for questionng by the police ebcause of the videos, but they had no right to take his weapon.

See what happened?

So in this particular case, it is (among other things) a question about the law itself.