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    Default Re: Anti-Abortion Hypothetical Question

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    This is why we have more foreign born people than anyone else in the world right? because Americas so bad!
    No, we have more foreign born people because of a huge exodus of mostly female Chinese immigrants to the United States (one of the biggest migrations in history) as well as what something like 7% of our population being completely undocumented immigrants who snuck in. (Maybe more, I guess they don't really know the true number, just going with the estimates.) And I already specifically made exception for those two major immigrant groups. But let's just take Japanese, as one example. Japanese used to be in the top 3 of Asian minority populations in the United States. It has dropped down to being only the 7th or 8th biggest, in part because there is virtually zero net movement from Japan to the U.S.

    Why is that, exactly?

    You can't get into these topics with a really simplistic black and white view. Yes, we have a large foreign born population. But qualify where those are coming from. The U.S. is not an unquestionably "better" place to a lot of first world residents anymore. Saying "well we get a ton from China and Mexico" =/= "every country wishes they could live here instead." In fact that's setting the bar pretty low in terms of judging where's the best country to move and raise kids.
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    Default Re: Anti-Abortion Hypothetical Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    No, we have more foreign born people because of a huge exodus of mostly female Chinese immigrants to the United States (one of the biggest migrations in history) as well as what something like 7% of our population being completely undocumented immigrants who snuck in. (Maybe more, I guess they don't really know the true number, just going with the estimates.) And I already specifically made exception for those two major immigrant groups. But let's just take Japanese, as one example. Japanese used to be in the top 3 of Asian minority populations in the United States. It has dropped down to being only the 7th or 8th biggest, in part because there is virtually zero net movement from Japan to the U.S.

    Why is that, exactly?

    You can't get into these topics with a really simplistic black and white view. Yes, we have a large foreign born population. But qualify where those are coming from. The U.S. is not an unquestionably "better" place to a lot of first world residents anymore. Saying "well we get a ton from China and Mexico" =/= "every country wishes they could live here instead." In fact that's setting the bar pretty low in terms of judging where's the best country to move and raise kids.
    We should start a new thread. I'd love go indepth with this subject but I gotta drive back to uni and deer and cotton fields dont get the best internet connection. But I would love to show the retention rates of these "migrant" workers.
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