BAILOUT: Yes or No?

[Big_John]

Big John: I'm not arguing that they're in the right. I'm arguing that it's human nature.

then we are talking past each other. i never said no one would have done it (though i am inclined to believe scapegoat argument much more, since i imagine those fragile dears hear similar talk everyday in congress). i simply said anyone that did change their vote not based on the issue but based on pelosi should be deported (and i was being kind, in that).

the Let me try putting it another way. Let's say your boss comes to you and says "alright, I've mismanaged the funds around here. In order to stay solvent, you're going to have to sign a document the HR manager will pass around in which you'll voluntarily take a 10% paycut". As the HR rep comes around, they announce "and by signing this document, you admit that you're lazy and stupid and only deserve 90% of what we're currently paying you".

Do you still think you'd sign?

that's a weird and bad analogy. but if the choice is between accepting a smudge on your honor (which may or may not be deserved), and watching your livelihood collapse....

Again, I'm happy the bill failed. I'm trying to get you guys to see that if you really wanted the bill to pass, you should be ticked at Nancy for failing to keep her fool mouth shut.

i guess i think thick-skinned professional politicians are 1) thick-skinned enough to withstand a partisan tirade and 2) professional politicians enough to quickly seize a scapegoat when it presents itself.