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    I remember going to see Stone's film about Nixon. As a friend remarked leaving the theater, "I don't know enough about that period of time, and having seen this film, I feel like I know less."

    I giver very low odds to this being a good movie, much less a worthy evaluation of the last eight years. Art turns to junk when it's propaganda.
    Lemur, you make it sound as though Hollywood is full of historically accurate, factual accounts of real world events and this will be the deviation. ;) I can't even go see movies about so called "history" because they are so full of made up things and forced-in love stories superimposed over the events that I become ill. (Pearl Harbor anyone?)

    It bugs me even when it is distant history and/or has few "hard source" accounts to base it on. I always feel like, if you're just going to make up a story... get an original script, completely fiction, and produce that instead. I mean, I may have been in the 1% of the audience who saw "Troy" and had actually read the old Homeric epics, for example... but I was like what?! Agamemnon died when he returned home! And Achilles brought his beloved "cousin" to war with him? Oh my god, I know why they changed that, but that's ghetto! I was having a little paroxysm. Hahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    Lemur, you make it sound as though Hollywood is full of historically accurate, factual accounts of real world events and this will be the deviation. ;) I can't even go see movies about so called "history" because they are so full of made up things and forced-in love stories superimposed over the events that I become ill. (Pearl Harbor anyone?)

    It bugs me even when it is distant history and/or has few "hard source" accounts to base it on. I always feel like, if you're just going to make up a story... get an original script, completely fiction, and produce that instead. I mean, I may have been in the 1% of the audience who saw "Troy" and had actually read the old Homeric epics, for example... but I was like what?! Agamemnon died when he returned home! And Achilles brought his beloved "cousin" to war with him? Oh my god, I know why they changed that, but that's ghetto! I was having a little paroxysm. Hahaha.
    Yeah, too right! Like when I went to see that Shakespeare dude, boy was that rubbish history! Richard III was a hunchback would you believe, and don't get me started on Cymbeline. I felt so cheated that he made that stuff up.

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    In other words, authors have always used historical events as a basis for their work. By all means criticise a film for being awful, but not that it is historically inaccurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    Yeah, too right! Like when I went to see that Shakespeare dude, boy was that rubbish history! Richard III was a hunchback would you believe, and don't get me started on Cymbeline. I felt so cheated that he made that stuff up.

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    In other words, authors have always used historical events as a basis for their work. By all means criticise a film for being awful, but not that it is historically inaccurate.
    Why not? You know what "based on" is? That's like the new Battlestar Galactica saying it was heavily influenced by the 9/11 attacks. (The opening attack sequences simulate the same feelings Americans had of just being totally blindsided.) Or saying that Tolkein wrote LOTR from his impressions of World War. Of course authors have always been inspired by grand historical events, and used them as the basis for things in works of fiction.

    I just fail to see why you want to make a "historical" movie, with "historical" figures and "historical battles", if you're then going to fictionalize everything. I promise you, there are thousands upon thousands of fiction scripts sitting unread in studios, where companies bought the rights but haven't bothered sifting through. Then some jerk comes along and says LET'S MAKE A DISNEY MOVIE ABOUT PEARL HARBOR!!!!!!!! OMG WITH BEN AFFLECK!
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    ROFL @ the last one. Smooth George
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