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    Default why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    Tosa,

    i have been telling you for months that my moderator account was broken,

    i have been asking you to fix it,
    i could not even unstick topics in my own samurai warlords forum.

    instead you have demoted my account,

    i did Not resign and i did Not quit

    i asked you to fix the permissions and controls on my account.



    that you are now ignoring my private messages is frustrating and frankly disrespectful

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    Hey barocca.

    Tosa, from my observations, has not been very active this last week and a half. In that time the .org download servers have gown down and there's been numerous threads springing up about them. Not to mention all the PMs that must have been made, this among all the other issues we've had in recent memory.

    It is possible you are just being buried in all the recent troubles. I know how frustrating it must be in your position but if there's anything I can say it's to be patient. And yeah, i know how frustrating that answer is too.

    Sorry but it's all I got, hope things get resolved soon.

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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    .Org coup-de-tat?

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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    As long as this doesnt turn into another Elmo thread

    Give it a week or two Barocca, then challange him to a duel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    hope things get resolved soon.

    Abandon all hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae View Post
    .Org coup-de-tat?
    Its like TWC all over again...
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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    Surely, keeping a Moderator permissions active would be a priority for an Administrator???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae View Post
    .Org coup-de-tat?


    Yes. He going to do a one man Rebllion!


    Me and my bad jokes


    I'm Suprise Tosa hasn't taken care of this yet, but it seems he has been really busy lately though.

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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    well it's still not fixed,

    this post has been ignored,
    emails have gone unanswered,
    private messages have gone unanswered.

    it is simply not good enough, i asked for my account permissions to be fixed so that i could do my job, Medieval 1 forums.
    Tosa wanted me to resume file management (admin duties) which i do NOT have time for,
    I have a lot of real life issues ongoing, including impending major surgery.


    Is Tosa the only person who can fix things around here?
    heaven help the org if that is the case,
    what happens if (and heaven forbid) Tosa falls off the twig?

    where will the org be then?
    dead and buried.


    why is this not fixed yet?
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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    I've not seen him online for quite some time, B. I'm nearly sure that you're not intentionally ignored. Tosa is the last one to act like that.

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    yesterday Tosa was online. I think the date was the 2nd of October. He didnt do much though. I say we boycott if this thread is not answered in the next two days.
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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae View Post
    .Org coup-de-tat?
    It's coup d'etat....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine View Post
    I've not seen him online for quite some time, B. I'm nearly sure that you're not intentionally ignored. Tosa is the last one to act like that.
    True he was on very briefly a few days ago. Which may explain this thread seemingly being ignored.

    I think personally that maybe people should stop spamming this thread and wait for Tosa to reply?

    If Tosa does not reply then it's still an issue that is between only those involved.

    Ser Clegane is the other admin.

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    Its really weird to see barocca throwing a tantrum.

    You better get on it Tosa, before he does one of these:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gIex0pd96U

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    Its really weird to see barocca throwing a tantrum.
    I think it's quite understandable. It's also one hell of a coincidence. Pretty shoddy treatment for a long standing staff member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orda Khan View Post
    I think it's quite understandable. It's also one hell of a coincidence. Pretty shoddy treatment for a long standing staff member.
    Argeed. I don't know what going on. Tosa might be busy, or he might want all the power!!! (joke, ). But I'm sure Tosa will get if fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    Its really weird to see barocca throwing a tantrum.
    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
    I've not seen him online for quite some time, B. I'm nearly sure that you're not intentionally ignored. Tosa is the last one to act like that.
    There are two Admins.
    Tosa is online replying to posts and promoting members to Moderators and Assistant Moderators. Why no reply to this thread about a staff member having problems with his 'permissions'.
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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    He posted in this sub-forum 7 hours ago. Surely he had time to read this thread.
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    Yes, he clearly hates you.


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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    plus he had time to take off my AM rights since I resigned, yet no responce from him or even Ser? Very Odd Indeed..

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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    This is a private matter to be worked out between the principles involved, i.e., not us. I doubt it would be discussed in public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jochi Khan
    Why no reply to this thread about a staff member having problems with his 'permissions'.
    This did not 'read' as I 'typed' it.
    I intended it to read as... Why no reply to a staff member who was having problems with his 'permissions'.
    I don't think anyone would expect a public discussion about this matter.
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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    Presumably what needs to be said has already been said.

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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    apparently i have been accused, tried and convicted of doing something that i have not done,

    AS SUCH, me being forced to bring this issue to the notice of the public before i got any response to any private query, i feel this issue HAS become public domain, and is of import to all members of the Org.



    all the posts from my worksite member's account, that were used as "evidence", have been erased

    i have not been told who the jury was, nor the prosecution or what defence was offered,

    i was not told that there were any previous issues with anything to do with me or my behaviour or my worksite member's account,
    yet this "incident" was declared "the last straw"

    there has never been any issue with any staff having private member accounts,
    there are valid security reasons for their existence.


    i was not even told that there had been a accusation, a trial, a conviction, Nor what the sentence was UNTIL I RAISED THIS THREAD






    i would like to point out that what i was punished for,
    which was not an argument, not a flame war and which was not even abusive, was a discussion ENTIRELY with member's of Tosa's gaming clan on the furture direction of MY OWN MOD and their complete lack of tolerance for any direction or option that they did not like,
    specifically adding the Mongols BACK into the mod. - they were always there, they had been disabled.


    the only evidence i can give in my defence is my word of honour, for all my posts were deleted and any restoration of those posts now is likely to be suspect and hotly disputed.

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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    I can see this discussion rapidly turning bad.

    Can I suggest this thread is locked and the discussion taken up somewhere else where it is restricted to the affected parties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ja'chyra View Post
    I can see this discussion rapidly turning bad.

    Can I suggest this thread is locked and the discussion taken up somewhere else where it is restricted to the affected parties?


    Ouch.... Tera-Gate #2?

    I doubt it Ja. If Baccoa is going to get screwed, and worse yet, banned, I don't think it would even matter if this thread was lock or not.


    However, I do see some sense (if that is the word I should use) in Barocca's posts suprisely.......


    But then again, lock this thread before anyone begins to take sides

    it make it only more ugly.
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    Default Re: why was i demoted when i asked for my account to be fixed?

    Why do you ask to get this Thread Locked??

    From reading what has been posted by ONE SIDE only, namely barocca, and nothing posted by the OTHER SIDE, it does give you the feeling that something is not quite right here. (I also know that certain discussions take place in private Staff areas between staff members)

    It appears to be a disagreement betweem some Takiyama Clan members and barocca over barocca's Samurai Warlords Mod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jochi Khan View Post
    Why do you ask to get this Thread Locked??

    From reading what has been posted by ONE SIDE only, namely barocca, and nothing posted by the OTHER SIDE, it does give you the feeling that something is not quite right here. (I also know that certain discussions take place in private Staff areas between staff members)

    It appears to be a disagreement betweem some Takiyama Clan members and barocca over barocca's Samurai Warlords Mod.
    It appears to be a little bit more then that. But yes, sometimes dicussions do take place in PM's and/or Private Areas.

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    That's what it appears to be to some who are resentful because support for the mod has dropped since they took it over. Unsubstantiated "feelings" and particularly, assumptions, are irrelevant. In the absence of information, many are jumping to conclusions and making a circus out of this--which I believe is the OP's intent--leveraging those who favor him because he hasn't been able to get his way otherwise. That some allow themselves to be manipulated so easily is frankly, pathetic. This thread doesn't belong on the forum. It's an attempt to start a public attack on the administration, and it saddens me that so many jump on the band wagon, when it has absolutely nothing to do with them. This is turning into a concerted flame war directed at the primary administrator over a presumed injustice. Flaming should not be permitted.

    Compared to the vast majority of other internet communities in which I've participated, the Guild is run in a very fair, democratic fashion. Those who participate on other boards should recognize this. Other administrations would simply ban the instigators and everyone else who continued to feed the fire. The fact of the matter is, it's not a democracy. No one has rights here other than what are granted by the owners of the board. If some don't like the way things are handled, they are free to leave.

    I'm not going to judge the decision in question because I'm not privy to the facts. But I don't understand why this thread has been allowed to perpetuate. No matter what actually happened, inciting public discord over a personal matter serves no purpose except to disrupt the peace on the forum. It should not be allowed to continue.
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