Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
Would grafitti on the walls of Pompei qualify as 'spam'?
Would the fact that Latin is itself derived from a language whose native speakers likely hailed from Armenia count for anything?
Would the fact that these speakers were to participate in what eventually became known as the first International System count for anything?
What would the fact that a Roman once remarked that Greece conquered its conquerors make?
What does it say that Romans sought to participate in such cults as Eleusinian mysteries?
What does it say that Christianity itself is based on a series of ancient and all non-Roman precedents?
Where does the very ritual of hand-shaking come from?
What does it mean that Rome itself likely developped into a city only after Etruscans and Greeks from Magna Graecia showed them the way?
Yes indeed: what does it actually mean that most if not all 5 'good emperors' were not from Rome?

It does not mean Rome did not influence the world, it does however beg to differ from the view that Rome was not *at least equally* influenced by that very same world.

Good point. Rome was very much influenced by the Greeks, Etruscans, and some other Italic tribes, you could also argue that they were influenced by the Trojans, or so the myth goes. But then the Romans went on to influence our world. Which is my point. It is sort of like a cycle but I see where you're trying to get at.


Now about Armenia. Why does everyone keep bringing up the point of the Romans originated from Armenia, thus Armenia has more impact on the world, and without Armenia there would be no Rome, or something similar to that line? Okay, let us say that the Romans and all Indo-Europeans originated from present day Armenia. So what. The whole human race as a species originated from Africa, then it spread out into the rest of the world. With that said, one could make the argument that without Africa there would be no Armenia, or even people in general. So you see, to say that Rome or Indo-Europeans hold some kind of debt to Armenia is foolish, because in that case Armenia has a debt to Africa.

Once again I have to stress that there is nothing wrong with Armenia, I am sure it is a wonderful country, but that is not the point.