forgetting any voicemods?

[The Persian Cataphract]

I just want to point out that Proto-Germanic is too late for the EB timeframe and that Pre-Germanic Indo-European is the technical name for it, which indeed I have reconstructed, so it is a matter of time and effort in making it sound authentic... even if it comes late I will make sure there it can be added to EB1.

I think this must be echoed towards the Pahlavîg voice-mod as well; a dire lack of resources, especially publically available sources contribute to these compromises. In the case of Pahlavîg voice-mod, the bulk of it is derived from Sassanian and Medieval Zoroastrian Pahlavîg, which of course offers a somewhat ample vocabulary, and does not deviate too drastically from the exhibits we do have from Arsacid Pahlavîg (As found in Manichaean manuscripts such as Shâpûhragân, Drakht Asûrîg ûd Buz, the early Sassanian inscriptions at Naqsh-î Rustam, or the excavated Nîsâ ostraca). However because it was a joint effort with IBFD, it comes to its own use, which is indeed better than nothing.

Therefore I would call this a "Simplified Pahlavî" which in its current state fits the Sassanian entity much better; in this front we have a long way to go, and at need we might need to "patch" the intended Parthian language with traces of Gîlakî, some Old Persian, Pârnîg if available, Aramaïc/Huzvârîshn loan-words, and indeed emphasize the need for Soghdian.

But what we ultimately have done is a tremendous first step. From a sculpter's point of view, we basically changed the material with which to work, and from here with the rough cuts, it's much easier to envision something of a "final product", tentatively speaking.

[SwissBarbar]

For the Swêbôz i suggest Swissgerman or another southgerman alemannic dialect, wich would be even more similar than modern high-german i think

[Foot]

I think you misunderstood Blitzkrieg80, he has reconstructed the language we will be using for the Sweboz.

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[artavazd]

Will we still be implementing an Armenian voice mod, or will that just be carried over to EB2?

[Foot]

The Armenian voicemod will appear in EBI, but it will be made during the EBII development period.

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[artavazd]

The Armenian voicemod will appear in EBI, but it will be made during the EBII development period.

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Just contact me whenever your ready

[Aemilius Paulus]

The Armenian voicemod will appear in EBI.

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Wow, a separate Armenian voice mod? EB must have a lot of resources, which is good of course, to make an entire voicemod for just one faction, especially so small and relatively insignificant (please don't flame me, after all, the Armenians weren't as pivotal as Seleukids, Romans, Parthians, Greeks, etc) . I know that EB doesn't work on a certain faction just because it was important and that EB attempts to accurately recreate all factions equally, but there is still a reason why the Celtic, Latin, and Greek voicemods were on of the first ones made. I'm guessing that is because the Ancient Armenian was very similar to the modern version, right?

So what voicemods is the EB team planning to do in the near/far future or is already doing? Seems that the Germanic and Pahlava, as well as the Armenian ones are going to come out, but are there any other?

[satalexton]

wow, wt bout pontos, surely they speak their own brand of persian do they not?

[artavazd]

Wow, a separate Armenian voice mod? EB must have a lot of resources, which is good of course, to make an entire voicemod for just one faction, especially so small and relatively insignificant (please don't flame me, after all, the Armenians weren't as pivotal as Seleukids, Romans, Parthians, Greeks, etc) . I know that EB doesn't work on a certain faction just because it was important and that EB attempts to accurately recreate all factions equally, but there is still a reason why the Celtic, Latin, and Greek voicemods were on of the first ones made. I'm guessing that is because the Ancient Armenian was very similar to the modern version, right?

So what voicemods is the EB team planning to do in the near/far future or is already doing? Seems that the Germanic and Pahlava, as well as the Armenian ones are going to come out, but are there any other?

The Seleukids, Romans, Parthians, and Greeks (later with the Byzantines) All thought Armenia was very pivitol or else they wouldnt have made the region the focus of importance/conquest.

[Tellos Athenaios]

to make an entire voicemod for just one faction, especially so small and relatively insignificant (please don't flame me, after all, the Armenians weren't as pivotal as Seleukids, Romans, Parthians, Greeks, etc) .

Those bold underlined bits, that was 'The Point (tm)'. Or perhaps the controversy which ensued. However, bear with me just a little longer: I have not seen anyone saying "Romans are descendant of Armenians" or anthing so much as implying this. All we have seen is the (widely accepted) thesis that Latin is a derivative of a speculative Indo-European language of which its first natively speaker most likely hailed from what is known as Armenia. The Hittites are only one such people, but seems on a relative solid basis that they are the result of a migration from Armenia.

This says little about the Romans except their language is derived from an Armenian language; if someone therefore argues that the Romans were so influential by virtue of the widespread loan words from and existance of derivative languages today, he must a fortiori conclude that Armenians of long, long ago have been (especially in this regard) equally influential if not more (because this Indo-European language also similarly influenced Iranian and Germanic languages among others such as Sanskrit).

Ergo that argument merely serves to show the logical fallacy of the assumption that because of Latin's influence the importance of Romans can be shown. It cannot. For all that it matters, I think the Latin influences in our language are more a product of Medieval Latin, which was not even Roman Latin to begin with: Erasmus complained for some reason.

The only other argument I heard was that the Romans conquered such an vast amount of area. And spread its culture. Truth is likely closer to the idea that this culture spreading worked both ways, and at any rate much of the 'Imperial' (or indeed all) Roman culture was borrowed from other cultures to begin with. You may want to compare the effect of (ancient and continuous) policies of Chinese authorities to style the cultures of their realm towards Han precedent. Yet: it is Qin script and Chu food the Chinese are famous for.

Conquering a vast amount of area is a similar argument to that of the language thing. It is true the Romans conquered a vast amount of people, but it is dwarfed in the face of what some Chinese dynasties have conquered. Or compare the territory the Khans subjugated.