I guess this is no more bizarre than contemplating Colin Farrell as Alexander (who ended up, in my opinion and rather shockingly, playing him brilliantly)
I guess this is no more bizarre than contemplating Colin Farrell as Alexander (who ended up, in my opinion and rather shockingly, playing him brilliantly)
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I have seen the future and it is very much like the present, only longer -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
The main reason why I thought of him playing Barca is because he actually looks like how I imagine your average Carthaginian to look like. I agree he hardly has a hard man look but Ben Kingsley can play both Ghandi and rock hard nutters very convincingly. If Goldblum's acting was excellent I reckon he could pull it off very well.
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Goldblum always looked more like Seleukos VI to me.
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He have some kind of intelectual air, in the style of "Ross" (David Schwimmer) from friends. He is a great actor but I think is a little away from Hannibal.
There is an upcoming movie (Hannibal the Conqueor), starring... Vin Diesel. No my idea of Hannibal, but well...
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Wow...the bizarre gets even bizarre-er...!! Check this out:
Hannibal the movie...with an animated prequel for 2009
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I have seen the future and it is very much like the present, only longer -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
asshole you just totally ruined my view of jeff goldblum.
I thought that north african guy (his name totally escapes me, hes in star trek deep space nine, and battle star galatica)
was a convincing hannibal. I never saw the movie, but from the pictures it was believable.
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It's precisely Adam Baldwin's 'I'm so great' attitude that would make him a good roman. And actually, from the series "Rome", it's Kevin McKidd (Vorenus) that most resembles the statues of Caesar that we have, not Ciaran Hinds (though as an Irishman of course I'm chuffed to see him get work). So I'd like to see Kevin McKidd as Caesar in a big budget film. Only problem is, he can't of course be in the same film as Arnold Vosloo, as Hannibal was tear-assing around Italy about 100 years before Caesar was born.
οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
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Cilve Owen would be a good Hannibal, i think that Ciarán Hinds did a great job in "ROME" playing Caesar and btw. Ray Stevenson, who played Titus Pullo in "ROME" would the right guy for the role of Vercingetorix or another "Barbarian"
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Hey its funny that Alexander Siddig has just come up because I came across this TV film about Hannibal starring him. Was intending on posting it. Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXnxdVcnqI0
Obviously low budget but I've been enjoying it a lot. I'm on video 5 now. I think the actors they've chosen look right to me.
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Then maybe vern Troyer???? Actually Bruce Willis does look a lot like the depictions.
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Hmmm...this thread could go off into the ether rather quickly if we start offering alternative reviews of "Alexander"...fun, but potentially never-ending. Oh, what the Hell...
Indeed -- he definitely DID have mommy issues that turned him into a bit of a pansy weirdo...! And a few "daddy issues" too, don't ya think? Yes, Oliver Stone took some liberty with history, but there are historical accounts that can back him up on the basics. I certainly don't claim to be an expert on the life and times of Alexander (Guy Rogers' Alexander: The Ambiguity of Greatness sits unread on my military history bookshelf), but I think the rather serious mindf#@*ing perpetrated by his father and mother during his formative years was a MAJOR influence in his conduct later in life.
I have seen the future and it is very much like the present, only longer -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
Hmm I've never thought about him as Hannibal, but he does resemble him a bit.
I did a sketch of Hannibal Barca back in 2005, based on his bust:
Jeff Goldblum with extra facial hair?
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This
Is
CARTHAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
Glaucus, son of Hippolochus, Illiad, 6.146
What do you guys think of 300? I've seen it once and thought it was a good film for the awesome factor. I didn't mind its historical innaccurracy because I don't think that they were trying to pretend that that is exactly what it was like. For me it was a proper 'sit back and enjoy the ride' flick.
Hmm tbh I can never imagine Goldblum seriously since all I ever think of is an impersonation of him mumbling and stuttering a lot (think Jurassic Park) so I doubt he'd work well with the script.
"Er..ah, Gisgo...hmm, d..d'ya notice how there's not one man there called uh...eh...Gisgo?"
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he sounds very confident about his project. It sounds like he has really put his sould into it, and maybe he will make it very good. Better than other directors, becouse maybe, maybe he will picture it very good becouse he know exactly where he is going and how he wwants it to be. Or maybe he will do it very bad, and it will be a very bad movie. I have never liked vin diesel.
About Collin Farrel as Alexander, i never doubted he would do it bad. I am really impressed how he made it. Dont forget it is just i movie. and maybe the most historical accurate movie made. And it entertained me. I dont think alexander movie really made out to the big audience, becouse it was too much like a documentary.
actually, this movie reads not like a documentary; more like some long version of a dime novel, with an actual theme being the only diff.
a documentary would be something else...
but to be fair, the actors were decent (and collin was brilliant indeed), and the essential idea behind the movie good, but I believe Oliver Stone just keeps missing the point: you cannot impose modern notions on ancient concepts. the whole gay part was a particularly embarrasing example.
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More importantly, who could play Julius Caesar in a modern day epic. Daniel Craig would not be bad at all.
First of all, Abou, Joaquin Phoenix is clearly the man to play Seleucus.
Second, Jeff Goldblum? No way. Clive Owen would be a safe choice. Jimmy Smits or Temuera Morrisson would be interesting, but the best man for the job by far would be ...
Arnold Vosloo.
Plus Adam Baldwin as some Roman dude.
@HopliteElite: Ciaran Hinds ring a bell?
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οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
Glaucus, son of Hippolochus, Illiad, 6.146
Ah yeh I reckon he could pull it off well. I just thought I'd like to add that I hate Alec Baldwin. For me he is the ultimate bad actor. I really do think he's pretty rubbish. He's just sort of got a B+ movie face and a slightly 'aren't I so amazing air about him.' Well that's what I get when I see him in films. I'd hate to see him cast as a Roman. Perfect way to ruin it for me.
And yeh I thought Ciaran Hinds made an excellent Caesar. I've seen both series' of Rome 3 times now. I love it so much.
I reckon Daniel Craig would have to Italianise his look a bit though.
Last edited by Space_Ed; 09-30-2008 at 21:06.
Julius Caesar was a Roman though, not a typical Italian. He'd be fair skinned, and of modest size. Craig seems to fit the build. He also takes naturally to arrogant characters and Caesar was most definitely an arrogant guy.I reckon Daniel Craig would have to Italianise his look a bit though.
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