Another beautiful day in hillbilly racist land...

**HoreTore** · 09-30-2008, 21:52

Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi

OP: Only marginally related to the original post, but I wasn't aware at all that terms like hillbilly, redneck, etc., were used outside of the U.S. very much. Is this usual, or just around international net/forum circles?

Not "redneck", but "hillbilly" is pretty much adopted here. We usually use norwegian terms of course, but we translate our terms(like "bondeknøl") into english terms like hillbilly.

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Norway still has white Christians??

No, he was black

Originally Posted by Viking

Isn't the fact that people call onself just that one of the causes that this happens...

I call this guy a norwegian too

**Rhyfelwyr** · 09-30-2008, 21:54

Originally Posted by HoreTore

I call this guy a norwegian too

And if he was Swedish...

**Alexanderofmacedon** · 09-30-2008, 22:16

So stupid. I am on the right side of the immigration spectrum, but this is no good that is a benefit to anyone. It's just simply stupid hillbilly racist as you put it.

**Hosakawa Tito** · 10-01-2008, 00:07

Racism is where one finds it and it's just as pernicious in the urban jungle as it is in the hills.

**PanzerJaeger** · 10-01-2008, 00:19

I don't fault the church for trying to accommodate a grieving(if racist) family. A funeral is neither the time to take a social stance nor a teachable moment.

The church could have refused to switch pastors, but that isn't really their mission. Christian values dictate that you accept people as they are first, and try to show them the correct way as time progresses.

Just as society expects that a Christian church wouldn't turn an unwed mother away, it also should accept that some in the flock have backwards views towards race and realize that a funeral is not the place to try and change that. A sermon on Sunday is definitely in order, though...

**Koga No Goshi** · 10-01-2008, 00:50

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

I don't fault the church for trying to accommodate a grieving(if racist) family. A funeral is neither the time to take a social stance nor a teachable moment.

The church could have refused to switch pastors, but that isn't really their mission. Christian values dictate that you accept people as they are first, and try to show them the correct way as time progresses.

Just as society expects that a Christian church wouldn't turn an unwed mother away, it also should accept that some in the flock have backwards views towards race and realize that a funeral is not the place to try and change that. A sermon on Sunday is definitely in order, though...

They asked for a trained minister; they got one and didn't like his skin color.

Plus, look at the other treatment this pastor has received. It doesn't sound to me like he's gone out there and tried to impose himself on others inappropriately or sought out controversy, it sounds like all of that has come to him on its own.

All in all, inexcusable behavior. It will have a negative social reaction and it deserves one, otherwise people like this are never going to change their ways. It may make them feel resentful but oh well; I'd rather them feel resentful because they're racist and unpopular than someone feel like they can't even live a normal life and do their job because of their skin color.

**HoreTore** · 10-01-2008, 04:04

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

I don't fault the church for trying to accommodate a grieving(if racist) family. A funeral is neither the time to take a social stance nor a teachable moment.

If the grieving family doesn't want a black priest, then they are more than welcome to find some other arrangement. But doing that is not a job for the church. And fortunately, most of the church understands that.

**Mikeus Caesar** · 10-01-2008, 04:37

Having spent half my life living in the country, i find that racism doesn't seem to be aimed at skin colour, the very large majority of the time. As was said earlier, if the culture and expectations of life are the same, then skin colour doesn't get looked at. You all end up good friends. It's when a culture that can be seen as 'alien' is brought into a community that racism begins. Country folk are just afraid of change, is all.

But then obviously there are communities like the one mentioned in the OP topic. This is just a case of people being vile, bigoted scum.

**KukriKhan** · 10-01-2008, 13:44

I just wonder why avowed atheists, agnostics, and anti-religionists even give a hoot how or why some church somewhere does anything, or picks its clergy, or performs its rites.

OTOH, the guy's treatment outside of church bears law enforcement attention.

IMHO.