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    Default Nobel Judge says Americans caint write no good

    Meh Elitism

    I consider this man a bigot.
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    Default Re: Europeans say Americans cant write good

    It's not elitism - the man is simply not sufficiently well-read.
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    We call a person like that a plank as in thick as two short planks. US is a vast melting pot of differing culture how can he seriously believe there are no good US writers.

    He is taking the last few years of no nobel prizes for american writers and proclaiming that this proves americans cant write good books. If someone wins next year does that mean the entire culture of US changed overnight cos of him.

    I think he should be burned at the stake using every Tom Clancy novel ever published
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    Absolute rubbish America is packed with great writers.

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    Default Re: Europeans say Americans cant write good

    Perhaps the thread title should be changed from "Europeans say..." to (clueless) "European says"

    What an ignorant fool - such a statement puts a stain on the prize as such

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    Default Re: Europeans say Americans cant write good

    The correct title would be "Europeans say Americans cant write well"´

    I see that you have gotten aquainted with Horace Engdahl.
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    (I took the liberty of making the topic title more specific, while trying to retain SFTS' ironic intent. ~Kukri)

    Bigot? Maybe. More likely though, he's so busy poring through the stuff he's given to judge that he has little time for recreational reading, so misses some real gems out there - including American ones.
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    Default Re: Nobel Judge says Americans caint write no good

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    "can't"

    "acquainted"

    That's what you get when being a smartass while being to tired to spell correctly.
    Cant was from STFS though.

    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
    (I took the liberty of making the topic title more specific, while trying to retain SFTS' ironic intent. ~Kukri)

    Bigot? Maybe. More likely though, he's so busy poring through the stuff he's given to judge that he has little time for recreational reading, so misses some real gems out there - including American ones.
    If I understood him correctly (with this interview and a correction he made) it's more of an observation on why the Noble Price has ended up mostly in Europe or to writers connected to Europe in the last years. And yes he's very elitistic and arrogant.

    Edit: Horetore, the Peace prize commitée. Need I say more?
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    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    Edit: Horetore, the Peace prize commitée. Need I say more?
    What about them? The last one went to a yank!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
    Bigot? Maybe.
    Make that imbecile. And definitely.

    Buy the way, Horace who?

    I think it's about time that this bunch of conceited grant their useless, overblown prize to Philip Roth before they dig their own mass grave, jump into it and politely ask the rest of the reading world to bury them alive and forget this bunch of morons ever existed. And that's putting it diplomatically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    Make that imbecile. And definitely.

    Buy the way, Horace who?

    I think it's about time that this bunch of conceited grant their useless, overblown prize to Philip Roth before they dig their own mass grave, jump into it and politely ask the rest of the reading world to bury them alive and forget this bunch of morons ever existed. And that's putting it diplomatically.
    But, but that would break the rule of giving the Nobel Price to a writer none heard of, written books none red and coming from the middle of nowhere.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    The correct title would be "Europeans say Americans cant write well"´

    I see that you have gotten aquainted with Horace Engdahl.
    "can't"

    "acquainted"


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    Colour, honour.....

    And anyway, this just proves how superior we norwegians are to the barbaric swedes. I say we loot and enslave them, I need some new furniture when I'm moving to a new apartment...
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    Default Re: Nobel Judge says Americans caint write no good

    I think it is obvious Americans are ethnically inferior at writing.
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    The correct title would be "Europeans say Americans cant write well"´
    No , the correct title would be " a Swedish bloke talking bollox"

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    Edit: oops, would appear others have already made a couple of grammatical points.

    I cannot disagree with the judge, we are overly insular. The French, who have their own literature and their own movies and television, know far more of American culture than we of theirs. Heck, they probably know more of our culture than we do of our own.

    Seriously, even European blockbuster films, like "My Life as a Dog", "Faraway, So Close" "The Girl on the Bridge" and "La Reine Margot" are relatively obscure arthouse films over here.

    But I also think that in some ways, being insular might improve your literature, as you'd be more focused and sharper on constructs that play to your own culture well such as wit, humor and sarcasm, which don't translate well.

    And I also believe the judge only said it to be a elitist git.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    I cannot disagree with the judge, we are overly insular. The French, who have their own literature and their own movies and television, know far more of American culture than we of theirs.
    Oh, no. Really they don't, most frenchies are amazed there is such a thing as a world beyond France. They are probably more american then the americans stereotype-technically speaking. Americans shouldn't be so insecure about all that, it's quite telling that all the top universities are in the US. The constant bickering or outright battles between scholars in magazines, not here. We made all that up, America is the intellectual battlefield

    edit, you might want to keep an eye on us cloggies, we are better in english then the english hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Oh, no. Really they don't, most frenchies are amazed there is such a thing as a world beyond France. They are probably more american then the americans stereotype-technically speaking. Americans shouldn't be so insecure about all that, it's quite telling that all the top universities are in the US. The constant bickering or outright battles between scholars in magazines, not here. We made all that up, America is the intellectual battlefield

    edit, you might want to keep an eye on us cloggies, we are better in english then the english hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    I think he should be burned at the stake using every Tom Clancy novel ever published
    There is, undeniably, a bit or irony in that post...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    There is, undeniably, a bit or irony in that post...
    What irony? He's proposing burning Engdahl with the works of the greatest American author who isn't dead or past the age of seventy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    What irony? He's proposing burning Engdahl with the works of the greatest American author who isn't dead or past the age of seventy.


    Oh, yeah. I often use to burn books of my favourite author when it gets cold in the winter; that's the ultimate respect I can show him.
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