Caning Pupils

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Haven't you people watched the Nanny shows? How many times does she yell at or hit the kids?
And most of those kids are absolute terrors too... Face it, the old way of "hitting the lil bastard till it shuts up" is obsolete and retarded.

Those children are also usually very young, certainly not teenagers or even usually elementary school. The same things do not work. Most people mature as they grow older, I grant you, but the strap or the cane can still be used effectively. Certainly the teacher will have more authority in the classroom. You don't need to hit the child because he won't shut up, but after other options have been exhausted, and the student hasn't learned, the cane should be an option. Nobody (well, very few) wants to be caned, and students will learn to respect the rules.

How about creating a class of um, dunno what to call it. Infraction? Formal disciplinary action? Which remains permanently on a record, is sent to colleges along with transcripts, etc.?

The student still doesn't care, and if the student is this out of hand, the parent in many cases refuses to acknowledge that their little angel is causing trouble.

Granted, some students still aren't going to care-- but I bet you the parents will in many cases.

From personal experiences, the students causing most of the trouble generally are not top quality academic material. Many of them will not go to universities.

I don't think any solution discussion can be meaningful without addressing the issue that, ultimately, this is a problem with parents. Not with classroom regulations. It's parents giving lip and attitude for some stupid rear-end teacher having the NERVE to say anything to "my kid." I mean if they had half a brain they wouldn't be teaching in the first place.

You have an fairly good point here - many parents certainly need a lesson in manners and the ability to listen to someone who says that their child isn't perfect.

Just kick them from school, if they don't want to swim let them drown. Kids who want to make something out of their life will thank you for it.

That is a potential solution.