nobel peace prize winners that werent deserved

[Viking]

Ok good because earth isn't warming. ty. Will do.

Will ya please skip changing topic all the time?

@Kago No Goshi, ok if you put it that way, ok. But as it is we are a pimple on earths butt that isn't even big enough for an itch.

And just what tells you that (see if you actually can come up with something)? Do you not believe in the ozon hoax either? Clearing of rain forests do not really occur? Certain important species of fish have not been near-exterminated? Animals do not die out because of humans?

[Fragony]

Will ya please skip changing topic all the time?

Am I? It's about nobel prices that are bull and this is double bull because it's a bull price he got for bull. Right on track tuut tuut

[Viking]

Am I? It's about nobel prices that are bull and this is double bull because it's a bull price he got for bull. Right on track tuut tuut

Whenever I attempt to refute your stance, you change [sub] topic. And you just did it again. Congrats.

If the Earth is heating, I think time is the best way to tell. Ya know, the IPCC are rather aware of that the climate is not static, and that we thus should not expect a linear increase in the average global temperature as there are other factors in the working here than just CO2.

[Fragony]

Whenever I attempt to refute your stance, you change [sub] topic. And you just did it again. Congrats.

If the Earth is heating, I think time is the best way to tell. Ya know, the IPCC are rather aware of that the climate is not static, and that we thus should not expect a linear increase in the average global temperature as there are other factors in the working here than just CO2.

How come I just like to add some flavour, I am rather clear about what I say, men isn't capable of changing climate unless we take Kago No Goshi rather draconian example, and I say that the earth is in fact not warming up at the moment which is a fact. Time already did tell that climate can change and that was before any hummer came of the assembly-line. I mean even Al Gore doesn't really believe it given his electricity bill or it is a classic example of do as I say not as I do, making the price even more rediculous.

[Viking]

How come I just like to add some flavour, I am rather clear about what I say, men isn't capable of changing climate unless we take Kago No Goshi rather draconian example

Yes, you are perfectly clear, but you do not meet criticism; you ignore it.

, and I say that the earth is in fact not warming up at the moment which is a fact.

In the larger picture, it doesn't matter. We'll see if the heating resumes.

Time already did tell that climate can change and that was before any hummer came of the assembly-line. I mean even Al Gore doesn't really believe it given his electricity bill or it is a classic example of do as I say not as I do, making the price even more rediculous.

Yep, but modern science indicates that man too is capable of affecting the climate on a grand scale. Yeah, you got a point that Al Gore do not really seem too keen to fix the problem, and that he so does not seem like the ultimate example of someone worthy of the prize.

[Fragony]

Yes, you are perfectly clear, but you do not meet criticism; you ignore it.

If you mean this; Hmm, now then, where does the energy ultimately come from that CO2 can reflect back to Earth?

I have absolutily no idea

[Viking]

If you mean this; Hmm, now then, where does the energy ultimately come from that CO2 can reflect back to Earth?

I have absolutily no idea

I mean all of my attempts on refutation so far in this thread.

The energy comes from the sun, and the CO2 alters the energy balance here on Earth through radiating back the infrared radiaton that Earth's surface sends out. At daytime, most of this energy comes from solar radiation while at night it's only the surface in itself.

To show that the greenhouse effect actually works, let me quote this wiki text which I believe is fairly accurate:

Venus has an extremely dense atmosphere, which consists mainly of carbon dioxide and a small amount of nitrogen. The atmospheric mass is 93 times that of Earth's atmosphere while the pressure at the planet's surface is about 92 times that at Earth's surface—a pressure equivalent to that at a depth of nearly 1 kilometer under Earth's oceans. The density at the surface is 65 kg/m³ (6.5% that of water). The enormously CO2-rich atmosphere, along with thick clouds of sulfur dioxide, generates the strongest greenhouse effect in the solar system, creating surface temperatures of over 460 °C.[19] This makes Venus's surface much hotter than Mercury's which has a minimum surface temperature of -220 °C and maximum surface temperature of 420 °C, even though Venus is nearly twice Mercury's distance from the Sun and receives only 25% of Mercury's solar irradiance.