Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
Where I live the government can do all those things.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4882600.ece

and then there's 42 days detention without charge...



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4887653.ece

So apart from locking us up without charges being brought (although thank god for the House of Lords), spying on our calls and mails......
The U.S. is rolling back its civil liberties, and the U.K. apparently is as well from what you say.

The point was, none of this had anything to do with socialism.