Things you just never do in battles.

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bozewolf 22:32 10-09-2008

Like the thread title says, post the things you just "don't do" in a battle (apart from the blatantly obvious, like charging archers into Varangians). Post one at a time to be interesting or throw up a whole list, your discretion. This'll be interesting.

I never:

Engage camels with horses. Never. Ever. Losses aren't worth it. (Alright! Maybe very occasionally, charge a pinned unit if their general is with them. VERY occasionally!).

NEXT!

caravel 23:05 10-09-2008

Never, ever charge cavalry uphill into a wood full of Chivalric Foot Knights... just don't do it.

bamff 23:19 10-09-2008

Never undersetimate bashkorts and let them get too close to your mounted crossbows.....if you want to keep your mounted crossbows....

bozewolf 23:32 10-09-2008

# Caravel:

Didn't I say APART from the blatantly obvious?

I never:

leave missile units on fire-at-will mode. They just mess up way too many firing orders and before you know it they're chugging arrows into the scrap involving your high-end units or something similar retarded.

caravel 23:38 10-09-2008

Never, ever upgrade your graphics card to a new Nvidia 8xxx or 9xxx series... oh wait you said not the blatently obvious?

Never position your crossbows/arbalests/handguns behind your other units...

Martok 00:09 10-10-2008

Never, ever engage Kerns with Huscarles unless you have at least one other unit to pin them down first.

bozewolf 00:50 10-10-2008

Here's a good one:

Never ever leave for a sanitary pit stop during a battle because you think "things are going swimmingly and it'll take at least 5 minutes for the AI to bring on reinforcements so I might take a crap while I'm at it".

Really. Don't. Before you know it you become so immersed in whatever lecture you have laying around in your bathroom that you totally forget about your poor army, only to return and find your brave men massacred.

lol

caravel 01:05 10-10-2008

A true tactician leaves his men in such a position that they take care of themselves...

bozewolf 01:20 10-10-2008

A true tactician doesn't leave in the first place, heh.

And I don't care what version you play, there's no way your forces are able to fight effectively AND autonomously for a good twenty minutes.

caravel 01:24 10-10-2008

Originally Posted by bozewolf:
A true tactician doesn't leave in the first place, heh.

And I don't care what version you play, there's no way your forces are able to fight effectively AND autonomously for a good twenty minutes.

Twas but a joke good sir!

I've done it actually, but on my old PC at a very poor frame-rate of about 2 fps

bozewolf 01:30 10-10-2008

I thought you were being cocky :( A downside of the internets lack of intonation, heh.

I've left an army alone in a defensive position sometimes to see what'd happen. AI usually just walks around you and piles into your flank. Not much cop there.

Axalon 03:00 10-10-2008

Hi guys,

I wanna play as well!

Here is mine: Never ever rely upon peasants, because you will only be sorry....

Short of chicken out, bleeding and creating a general rout they aint good for nothing!
Seriously, they will probably do more damage to your army than any good, they
simply aint worth the dirt they are walking on....

bozewolf 03:08 10-10-2008

Oh fully agreed. Even as cannon fodder and bait they are useless! IMO even as garrison troops they aren't all that.

Screw peasants. Support the movement!

Martok 08:36 10-10-2008

Never fight large battles when you're sober. (Yes, you read that correctly.)

Caliburn 08:40 10-10-2008

Actually, when it comes to arbalests/crossbows etc, I sometimes place them behind my spears etc. If there's a nice hill that allows them to shoot over the heads of my other infantry and the enemy has a lot of cavalry. Maybe I'm just lazy, but that way I don't have to worry about pulling the missiles behind a protective wall, as the demoralized light cavalry breaks on impact when they face the spearwall.

Sorry about breaking the "neva eva" -thread...

I never field -3 morale generals... Obvious, though...

Turbosatan 10:15 10-10-2008

Whilst playing intoxicated (a vice that I know isn't the smartest, but hey it's my leisure time) I've often got fixated on one particular part of the battlefield/group of units & returned my attention to the main scrum to find my army scattered, my general fighting for his life & a wall of polearms about to charge into the rear-end of my parked heavy cavalry...

Another version of this is what I like to call the "Prince Rupert": concentrating solely on what your heavy cavalry/knights are doing, co-ordinating the <i>perfect</i> charge/pincer/flanking move, or driving the enemy heavy cavalry completely from the field & wheeling the camera back to find you've only got twelve men left in the centre & a wall of advancing angry infantry rumbling toward your exhausted armoured blokes... D'oh!

Lokiss 10:24 10-10-2008

Never, ever try to take on pikemen with calvary, not even flanking. Lost too many generals like that.

drone 15:36 10-10-2008

Never put spears in wedge formation....

Mithrandir 16:35 10-10-2008

Things I never do in battle:

I never ever lose a battle if I have more than 2 units of camels.

Martok 18:21 10-10-2008

Originally Posted by Martok:
Never fight large battles when you're sober. (Yes, you read that correctly.)

To clarify, by the way: Fighting battles when I'm dead drunk isn't any better, obviously (although it can certainly be entertaining).

However, my generalship does seem to improve when I'm mildly lubricated. It's like the right amount of alcohol relaxes my mind enough so that I become more tactically flexible, and/or more likely to take risks -- risks that are often times successful. (When sober, I tend to be very conservative in my tactics.)

Originally Posted by Mithrandir:
Things I never do in battle:

I never ever lose a battle if I have more than 2 units of camels.

And a point to the Great High Camel Lord!

seireikhaan 03:09 10-11-2008

NEVER underestimate the effect of desert fatigue on your shiny Kataphractoi/insert variant of powerful western knight.

oz_wwjd 03:54 10-11-2008

Never,under any circumstances,send horses of any kind against camels,even if they are flanking said camels..

Brandy Blue 11:39 10-11-2008

Originally Posted by Lokiss:
Never, ever try to take on pikemen with calvary, not even flanking. Lost too many generals like that.

I beg to differ. If you use two nimble cavalry units on one pike unit it can work.
A: use cavalry unit I to lure pikes out of position.
B: When the pikes are away from supporting troops, cavalry unit II rear ends them, and then scambles away before the pikes are finished turning around. Do the silly pikemen form a square and await support? No! They chase cavalry unit II
C: Cavalry unit I rear ends the pikes, and scambles off before they finish turning around
D: etc.

Of course this assumes you have other units to keep the rest of the enemy busy.

This example illustrates my contribution:

Never fight fair, unless no other option presents itself. The technical word for this is tactics.

caravel 00:07 10-12-2008

Yes, spear/pike units can be flanked and destroyed by cavalry but they must be pulled out of formation first and hit from the flank or rear. The best method is to use only the charge and not let the cavalry unit get stuck in melee. So pull them back form them up and charge again. Obviously this doesn't work one on one and you need another unit to perform some feints. If you're taking on a high valour swiss armoured pike prince though you may want to think again. There are always exceptions especially as regards high valour, well upgraded jedi units. This is where the RPS rules start to be become very grey.

Strike For The South 00:53 10-12-2008

Originally Posted by Martok:
Never fight ~~large~~ any battles when you're sober. (Yes, you read that correctly.)

fixed

Don Corleone 02:16 10-12-2008

Never use Ghazis as ambushers, they don't hide very well.

caravel 12:21 10-12-2008

Funnily enough I always use them as ambushers, though they might take it upon themselves to charge without orders if that's what you're referring to?

Martok 19:34 10-12-2008

Originally Posted by Caravel:
Funnily enough I always use them as ambushers, though they might take it upon themselves to charge without orders if that's what you're referring to?

I think that's what The Don was talking about yes. You know as well as I that Ghazis sometimes have a tendency to be overly....enthusiastic.

Gyrfalcon 18:08 10-13-2008

Never charge arbalesters with your precious knights. You think they'll reach them in time, and then the bolts drop them like flies. Nasty.

Kamakazi 19:39 10-13-2008

Never Ever Engage a massively superior force unless you have a death wish.... oh isnt that obvious?

my bad

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