Britain adopts Sharia law. Is this true?

[Strike For The South]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,422661,00.html

I can't bring my self to believe this. A western nation can't be allowing courts based on religon

[ICantSpellDawg]

I had heard about this a while ago. I can't get my head around how they are going to implement this without sacrificing some aspect of equality between the sexes. Here is an article from the times just in case people claim that Fox isn't a real news source Link

As an aside: Strike - you've spelled Sharia wrong to start with. It was going to be hard enough not to get into a 6 page dispute between everyone and Tribesman about whether or not anyone knows what Sharia actually is (except for Tribesman). I think our forum has hit its yearly quota of laughing smileys - any more will simply put us over the top in terms of bandwidth.

I urge everyone to read this wikipedia article stressing what Sharia is and what it is not - in order to prepare us for what is to come.

[JAG]

[Big_John]

edit: seriously, though.. why can't i find any news about this beyond fauxnews.com? wikinews is blank, bbc is blank.. what's going on?

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Months ago the Archbishop of Canterbury suggested that Islamic and Jewish laws be adopted pertaining to civic cases within the respective communities. He was bombarded to silence by the hordes of organised unreligion zealots. Probably a smartfox came up with the old news and flushed it out again to stir the air.
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[ICantSpellDawg]

I posted a times london article

[Big_John]

I posted a times london article

the times is the source for the fauxnews story, i already saw that (they are both newscorp anyway). and i was familiar with the row over the AB of C's words a couple months ago or w/e. but why isn't there anything on wikinews or reuters? seems like someone else would at least repeat the newscorp story... news lag?

[Adrian II]

I posted a times london article

The article also says what these courts really are:

Under the act*, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

Arbitration by consent of the parties is a normal procedure, for instance among Jews in the UK. British jewish courts, so-called Beth Din, are in use every day.

* The 1996 Arbitration Act under which such courts operate.

[ICantSpellDawg]

the times is the source for the fauxnews story, i already saw that (they are both newscorp anyway). and i was familiar with the row over the AB of C's words a couple months ago or w/e. but why isn't there anything on wikinews or reuters? seems like someone else would at least repeat the newscorp story... news lag?

As much as it might hurt people to admit - Fox News doesn't tend to report lies. They might report stories with a bias, but the facts are always there.

I understand your point, Adrian - They elaborated on that point in the Times article. Do you believe that this is a good idea? It is arbitration of civil cases now, but the Times article quoted one of the people involved as saying that it would deal more and more with criminal cases. Women may go along with this, but couldn't the laws be viewed as unconscionable if they consistently side with males over females? The law is supposed to provide some equality that might not be inherent to the society in question.

[Big_John]

Arbitration by consent of the parties

i assumed as much. thanks for the link.

[Big_John]

As much as it might hurt people to admit - Fox News doesn't tend to report lies. They might report stories with a bias, but the facts are always there.

I understand your point, Adrian - They elaborated on that point in the Times article. Do you believe that this is a good idea?

newscorp is a travesty and a joke. but that's beside the point. i'm assuming that the story is true, but wondering why no one besides newscorp seems to care.

[ICantSpellDawg]

newscorp is a travesty and a joke. but that's beside the point. i'm assuming that the story is true, but wondering why no one besides newscorp seems to care.

Like I said - Newscorp has a different agenda than other news organizations. They do different blackouts in coverage and accentuate different occurrences. If this is true and you can't find it anywhere else - doesn't it make you slightly thankful that newscorp exists? I am thankful when left leaning news sites present facts that are blacked out by other mainstream news organizations.

[Big_John]

If this is true and you can't find it anywhere else - doesn't it make you slightly thankful that newscorp exists?

only if the 'news' is important. not sure about this story yet. and the catch 22 of it is, if it's really important, a reputable news agency will pick it up.

[ICantSpellDawg]

only if the 'news' is important. not sure about this story yet. and the catch 22 of it is, if it's really important, a reputable news agency will pick it up.

Not always. I like Fox news and other Newscorp branches. I also like coverage that I am ideologically opposed to.

[Big_John]

Not always. I like Fox news and other Newscorp branches. I also like coverage that I am ideologically opposed to.

i'm ideologically opposed to all news coverage.

[ICantSpellDawg]

i'm ideologically opposed to all news coverage.

So what is your major gripe with Fox? Do you find that they lie and make up facts?

[Big_John]

So what is your major gripe with Fox?

platinum blondes.

[Crazed Rabbit]

The article also says what these courts really are:

Under the act*, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

Arbitration by consent of the parties is a normal procedure, for instance among Jews in the UK. British jewish courts, so-called Beth Din, are in use every day.

* The 1996 Arbitration Act under which such courts operate.

You don't think certain classes of people might not be pressured to agree to a Sharia court for abitration?

CR

[KarlXII]

1. It's a Faux News article about Islam
2. It's a Faux News article about Britain
3. It's a Faux News article

[CountArach]

edit: seriously, though.. why can't i find any news about this beyond fauxnews.com? wikinews is blank, bbc is blank.. what's going on?

Is that a serious question?

[KarlXII]

You don't think certain classes of people might not be pressured to agree to a Sharia court for abitration?

CR

Britain is not Iran.....

[Big_John]

Britain is not Iran.....

not yet.











dum DUM DUM!!

[KarlXII]

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Has Faux News gone Commie?

[Big_John]

Has Faux News gone Commie?

are you implying a connection between communism and propaganda? pull the other one.

[InsaneApache]

Britain is not Iran.....

There has been cases of moslem women being told how to vote by the head (male) of the family in the city I live in. So some would undoubtably be pressured to abide by the 'courts' decision.

[KarlXII]

There has been cases of moslem women being told how to vote by the head (male) of the family in the city I live in. So some would undoubtably be pressured to abide by the 'courts' decision.

Of course there is pressure. But it's a free society, they have the option to choose not to, and they know it.

[Tribesman]

There has been cases of moslem women being told how to vote by the head (male) of the family in the city I live in.

So ? I told my wife how to vote on the last trip to the polling booth ....not that it worked though because she is English and couldn't vote in that referendum .

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

This isn't a lie.

Telegraph

[ICantSpellDawg]

I think that the Telegraph is NewsCorp as well - so it doesn't count as news just yet. Everybody knows that news doesn't happen unless CNN, BBC or Al Jazeera carries the story.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I think that the Telegraph is NewsCorp as well - so it doesn't count as news just yet. Everybody knows that news doesn't happen unless CNN, BBC or Al Jazeera carries the story.

Only the Australian Daily Telegraph is NewsCorp, according to Wiki.

EDIT: Right now, on the first page of Google, I see the Times, Daily Mail, and Sun carrying it.