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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    That puts it in a different light; though his selection of words more than hints at an underlying attitude.

    EDIT: No wait..what the hell am I saying? The concentration camps were certainly not punishment camps. A punishment is what you get when you've done something "wrong"; and what the Jews did wrong was being Jews. There is of course the thing with relativity; but in the modern Western sense, a punishment camp is somewhere criminals are sent; not someone with the "wrong" ethnic background; which was what these camps were largely used for anyway. It so incredibly clearly hints toward the real opinions of this guy.
    Punishment does not impart guilt. I could punish you for something you did not do. Describing the camps as "punishment camps" is accurate.

    Besides, as I highlighted, this was simply a passing reference during a debate. It is not as if the man gave a speech about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by CR
    You'll have to point out where the government has killed people for being Jewish.
    Are you being deliberately obtuse?

    The Jews were sent to the camps to be punished. One of those punishments was death. Therefore, Haider was not factually incorrect. You were.

    Aside from that, I'm still having a hard time finding where he used the phrase "only punishment camps". "Only" would give some credence to the argument that he was in fact trying to downplay what happened there, although that would still be a weak argument.
    Last edited by PanzerJaeger; 10-12-2008 at 01:46.

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