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    Default Allied states and client rulers.

    Other than fast building times and the ability to recruit the best regional troops, what are the benefits of creating allied states? Also, how do client rulers work? Do you have to recruit a mercenary general and put him in an allied state?

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    Default Re: Allied states and client rulers.

    I find client rulers to be useful when I am suffering from a lack of suitable family-member governors.

    Basically, recruit a mercenary general (one of his traits will say that he has a path to choose). To make him a governor, simply leave him in that settlement. If you want him to be an allied general, move him out.
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    Default Re: Allied states and client rulers.

    Allied generals I think are good to use if you want to focus on city management (that is, you want your cities properly governed). This is especially helpful early on, when family members are far and few. I find client rulers a a blessing and a curse. To effectively use a client ruler, that means keeping that city an allied state for up to 50 + years (ive gotten 16 year old client rulers). Of course you could still change government at any time, but you still have a rather ineffective (can't move very much) general. I personally hate allied states (when not-roleplaying), instead I find a nice easily accessible city and make it my one allied state (for romans my favorites are bononia or massalia). Here you can pump out generals and locloa troops once in a while. of course if you are roleplaying you will end up with many allied states so then all of this post was for nothing. My best advice is just don't abuse the quick fix of Type IV's and be more aware of the payoff of a type II or I (if applicable). Oh yes, andbe mindful that allied generals cannot recieve triumphs (while really not that important in terms of gameplay, it is nice to see ur FM as triumphators.

    Oh and be careful if an allied general is sitting in a city and the Type IV government building is completed during that time, he automatically becomes a client ruler. Additionally if you can afford it, allied generals are an effective means of providing self replenishing cavalry or infantry to an army. I actually tested this out with an army consisting of both allied general cavalry and infantry, incredibly expensive (admitadly i had to cheat to maintain it, just testin tho), but incredibly effective.
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    Default Re: Allied states and client rulers.

    It'll also keep rebellious settlements under control. A client ruler immediately gets at least 5 influence once you determine his path.
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    Default Re: Allied states and client rulers.

    2 main reasons:

    quickly control an area - client rulers make a huge difference in keeping a province happy, extremely handy when you're in a situation where you need to move your army on and are unable to quickly reinforce the area. Also when your ruler dies of old age you can easily replace them and not mess around shipping family members across the world

    types 4 govts get the +1 experience bonus, when combined with blacksmith/temple bonuses (and assuming the region is capable of producing worthwhile troops) they can become some of your best troop production centres.

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    I believe the allied settlement gives you +2 exp, but the core territory (lvl 1) gives you +2 morale. Lvls 2 and 3 give you a single morale and a single exp point respectivly. So yes: units from the allied regions fight slightly more efficient, but the difference isn't that great.

    Main reasons to make a settlement allied:
    -if you need to control hard-to-control regions: my allied governors seem to be having at least a bit influence.
    -if you need a specific mercenary general unit (heavy cavalry for greek mercenary general, heavy infantry for celtic generals, and heavy ranged cavalry for nomadic generals)
    -if you want to be able to build out the regional barracks. I often find myself building the highest level regional barracks (mostly for the sake of it), before changing the government level. That way: you can build (and use) both factional and regional barracks. Though, by the time any of these are at a decent level, you're unlikely to still need them.
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    Default Re: Allied states and client rulers.

    Quote Originally Posted by godsakes View Post
    2 main reasons:

    quickly control an area - client rulers make a huge difference in keeping a province happy, extremely handy when you're in a situation where you need to move your army on and are unable to quickly reinforce the area. Also when your ruler dies of old age you can easily replace them and not mess around shipping family members across the world

    types 4 govts get the +1 experience bonus, when combined with blacksmith/temple bonuses (and assuming the region is capable of producing worthwhile troops) they can become some of your best troop production centres.
    Its not only for quickly controlling an area blitzing and good troops. Some regions you just have to have one or you will never hold them unless you want to keep your faction leader in the town for 10 years :/

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