Land battles FAQ

**Alerion** · 10-23-2008, 08:43

yoi great... back to topic... an artillery with 600 metres of range wouldnt "dominate" this 600 metres... since a unit with that range would be light artillery it wouldn't do as much damage as other stuff and it wouldnt be highly accurate at this range... heavy artillery ranged about 200 metres at that time and thats still building busters... this ammunition is not the ideal thing to deal with enemy troops... that would be grape shot and since grape shot makes the cannon ultimately a giant shotgun the effective range against infantry or cav would be even lower

also about the diameter... it depends... if you dug the cannon in this preparation defences that were mentioned somewhere by CA you wont be able to move it alot so I doubt you could turn it all the way around then... and even if you could... if some cav manages to outflank you it'd would probably be too late to turn around your cannon the moment you notice a cav unit charging at it from behind

**Megas Methuselah** · 10-23-2008, 10:27

Lol, Fenir. No, 1.4km2 isn't 1.42. The square on the km merely means that it's a different unit of measurement, mainly being an area and not a length.

Anyways, thx for the information, Alerion. So freedom of movement will probably be largely guaranteed on the battlefield, I presume. This ought to be fun, attempting to outmeneuver the enemy on both the campaign map and the battlefield.

**pdoyle007** · 10-23-2008, 12:55

As you got further away from the cannon the range would diminish so 600m cannon wouldn't dominate. As previously mentioned even on a totally flat, wind free, featurless battlefield you'd have to fire roundshot which was a relativly small projectile considering the distance.

It does mean that a frontal assault against cannon is even more foolhardy. Especially against enemies that have multiple cannon (do we know how many where in each unit card?)

Although I think at the time the idea was to have the cannon on an angle to fire across the front of the advance to keep killing right up until the point the armies met

**Alerion** · 10-23-2008, 15:20

I guess cannons WILL be pretty strong... but I guess you'll have to be able to use them... just leaving them somewhere alone in the open will probably get them killed, but to guard them might be tricky... you can't really put anyone in front of the cannon, unless you have the cannon on a hill and the guarding infantry a little down the slope...

remember those things didnt fire nice arcs like our good old RTW archers...

**Intrepid Sidekick** · 10-23-2008, 16:17

Couple of points:

The 1.4km2 is a boob. It should be 1.96km2 and therefore 1.4 x 1.4 km.

Cannon on the battlefields may not have absolutely realistic ranges. Just as we dont have armies that are 1 for 1 in scale. They are however effective and do create killing grounds. Just dont think you can dominate a battlefield with an army full of cannon. You wont.

**Sheogorath** · 10-23-2008, 16:50

Originally Posted by Intrepid Sidekick

Couple of points:

The 1.4km2 is a boob. It should be 1.96km2 and therefore 1.4 x 1.4 km.

Cannon on the battlefields may not have absolutely realistic ranges. Just as we dont have armies that are 1 for 1 in scale. They are however effective and do create killing grounds. Just dont think you can dominate a battlefield with an army full of cannon. You wont.

I dunno, I've seen some pretty effective all-cannon armies in NTW :P

Although they mostly depend on having a river between you and the enemy.

The most hilarious battle I've ever seen was an army full of Congreve rockets against a regular army of Prussians. Who were routed.

Speaking of those, I assume Congreves are in the game since I think one screenshot showed rockets, but are they going to be as hilariously inaccurate as in NTW? There's nothing like firing a volley of rockets only to have one of them fly five meters and lodge in your general's skull.

**fenir** · 10-23-2008, 16:57

Methuselah,

1.4² = 1.4 x 1.4

ok lets break it down. 1.4km = 1400 meters.
1400 meters on the y axis, and 1400 across on the x axis.
Now how do we obtain the surface area? 1400 x 1400 = 1,960,000 square meters.

The unit of measure is not effeted it's the numbers and the equation that matter.

Intriped Sidekick.

How do you get 1.4 x 1.4 = 1.96²?

Ahhhh the penny drops.

1.4 x 1.4 = 1.96km²

(1.96 Sq km)

so, 1.4km x 1.4km = 1.4²km = 1.96km² Damnit, memory fading.

Sincerely

fenir