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    Default Re: Is religion the most basic codification of natural law?

    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    You think you can, have you given it a serious try? Theologians and philosophers try to answer these questions in a very logical and thoughtful manner, they most certainly do not luck the answers out of thin air.
    I edited my post before you answered...sorry.


    Like I said....when we don´t know something....we should just say we don´t know...I see no reason to make up answers....

    but If I want to...I could make up answers with no problem....specially if I can have the special dispensation of logic rules religion enjoys......will phylosophers disagree with me?...sure...but I can just say they are heads that don´t know the real truth of the Lord! (me)

    see?...easy.
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    Default Re: Is religion the most basic codification of natural law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    I edited my post before you answered...sorry.


    Like I said....when we don´t know something....we should just say we don´t know...I see no reason to make up answers....

    but If I want to...I could make up answers with no problem....specially if I can have the special dispensation of logic rules religion enjoys......will phylosophers disagree with me?...sure...but I can just say they are heads that don´t know the real truth of the Lord! (me)

    see?...easy.
    true... people are taught not to question their religions and that makes it easy to use religion as "get out of jail" card in these situations....

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    Default Re: Is religion the most basic codification of natural law?

    Science and religion both seek truth. Generally people say that the difference between the two is that religion relies on beliefs. In my view though, science relies on belief (as it should) and goes to great lengths to test and retest those beliefs. The ability to conceptualize is key to scientific understanding. Religion also relies on belief, but shouldn't. Knowing truth doesn't require belief. But people like beliefs so they are an important part of most current religions, even if the founders of those religions wouldn't approve.

    COsmological Argument is a fairly well-known one.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument
    "There is a first cause of the universe" never seemed like an argument that came close to answering "why are we here?" to me...
    Last edited by Sasaki Kojiro; 10-22-2008 at 16:48.

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