A bit of help with Eprius?

**retep219** · 10-30-2008, 04:18

Thanks for the assistance, everyone. An update, probably my last one.

Arretium/Arminium/Patavium/Bonnonia have all been taken from the Romans. I have also taken Segestica and the Illyrian province south of it, leaving eastern Illyria as a buffer for the Getai. I am steadily building up my barracks; within 10 turns I should have Level V barracks in my capital (elephants for the expensive win!) and Level IV barracks in Pellas (are Agrarian Assault Infantry any good?) which should allow me to build up a fairly decent second army to bash the hell out of "Arche" Seleukia. Not being able to retrain my main army is annoying; all the phalanxes are severly understaffed (though they all have silver chevrons) and I am forced to rely on mercenaries.

One weird thing: Why are "Pedites Extrodenarii" worse than principes? Seriously, they have only 10 attack versus 15 on the principes. And the extrodenarii only have 4 more defense points.

**teh1337tim** · 10-30-2008, 06:36

dont judge by looking at the points
Spears get a penalty when facing infantry i believe -5 ?
so the developers gave it a +5 to balance out spear vs swords,

oh and basically you screwed urself 2 reforms :P no cataphracts or new bodyguards for east...pwoor seleukids and baktria and pahlava...

**Maion Maroneios** · 10-30-2008, 06:57

Originally Posted by retep219

are Agrarian Assault Infantry any good?

Hell yes! As Makedonia, I use them frequently during my Anabasis. They are excellent assault infantry as well as able skirmishers and ambushers. They only drawback is their lack of armor, but you can't have it all can you?

Maion

**We shall fwee...Wodewick** · 10-30-2008, 10:31

I started an Epeiros campaign yesterday and now own all of greece, macedonia, a few thraikian towns to the north and east, coastal Illyria, south east Italia(taras and arpi) and Rome herself after 3 epic full stack battles.

It's brilliant. I would suggest using Thorakitai from the southern cities, Pezhetaroi from the Macedonian, some theurphoroi and prodromoi(I love these guys! They can destroy any unit in a good charge up the

) from you epriot cities, and then you can mix depending on where you are. i.e if you are in Italy, get some samnites and Bruttians; if Asia minor or Thrace is your cuppa tea, then get some good gallic or Thracians to supplement your force.

One question though, can I recruit Thrakoi Prodromoi and peltastai as I'm currently just hiring them as mercs in high quantities?

EDIT: What! Should I let Rome Live? What reformed units do I get? I didn't think I got any?!

**machinor** · 10-30-2008, 14:00

As Epeiros I don't think you get any reforms. The March of Time reform is nice for Makedonia (Phalangitai Hysteroi), Pahlava (Late Cataphracts and Bodyguards) and Baktria (Late Cataphract Bodyguards). I think it also applies to Pontus and Armenia.

**We shall fwee...Wodewick** · 10-30-2008, 15:03

Oh so I can continue my march up the peninsula. Onwards Ptolemaoios and avenge Pyrrhos!

**Cbvani** · 10-30-2008, 15:07

Agranian assault infantry have AP axes.
I love them muchly.

**gamegeek2** · 10-30-2008, 20:52

They are very nice niche infantry. I like to have a unit of them in my Hellenic mainland armies. However, they're in danger of being replaced by my Cordinau Orca. However, those are mainly in my Thraco-Celtic armies.

Speaking of which, get Scourcouw - it has most of the good Celtic regional units and the Scordisci Elite Infantry, which are some of the best, if not the best, infantry in the game; they beat Hypaspists. Check out the Recruitment Viewer to see what I mean.

Oh yeah, build a level 4 gov there. That'll also give those nice regionals 1 exp right off the bat.

**retep219** · 10-31-2008, 00:13

For some reason the recruitment viewer has never worked....still can't figure out why. So, I'm screwed in that regard. Anyways, where is Scourcrow? The name does not sound familiar...

Anyways, 6 turns before I get my Level IV barracks in Pella and agrarian infantry. 4 turns until I get level V barracks in Ambrakia. Looking forward to it.

I've finally swept up the Roman armies that kept on be a nuisance. (I move towards Segesta and Bonnia and Arminium are both sieged. I break sieges, but the armies get away) That means Segesta...and Roma after that....are no longer safe.