The Prometheus: Large Mafia Game [Concluded]

[White_eyes:D]

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Was this meant for me?

Anyway, Reenk your gonna lose this one as you really are pained to even think YLC is Mafia let alone lynch him.

If PP is not Mafia, then after tonight we may lose or only have 2 townies left.....


Edit: Mafia gets kill tonight if past data has been right....

[ULC]

I wish I was I was as analytical as Reenk right now, but I am not. I hope your investigation clears me, and we can nail the mafia. Yes, indeed, I wish Ichi were here now, we need him more then ever, I've seen several late games hang on just basic particpation, and the mafia wins because the town is not active, even if they have the mafia right were they want them.

Vote: Peasant Phil

I agree with Reenk, and I would have voted you last round had AtPG not set my mafia sense off when he asked for my role.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I really wish you all would stop resisting. It's not too late for you to receive the wisdom of our glorious leader.

Don't you understand? This community is at its strongest when it is calm, at peace, and passive. You are more careful not to overlook small details, and your reasoning ability is also strengthened. Such is the path towards enlightenment; if only you would lay down your arms and remain at peace, no harm would come to you, and you would be receptive to the wisdom I am trying to share.

The more you resist the truth, the more closed-minded and hostile you become. Since capturing our leader you have done nothing productive. It is because you are overconfident, and because you are blind to reality. The more you struggle, the more so-called innocents among you will be dragged into the freezer.

Just try my suggestion. Sit around and do nothing, and you will emerge with the knowledge and wisdom you seek.

[Peasant Phill]

Vote Reenk

Apparantly, wanting to live is enough to condem me, as every explenation I gave is still disregarded.

Anyway, I better start making my testament.

[Chaotix]

Hmm... retaliation vote, huh.

At this point, I'm not gonna take a guess at who's mafia, as I'm pretty confused myself. But, I will mentione this:

Every time CR has mentioned some sort of paper or pamplet or article in his write-up, it has meant that a mafia has been converted. In the early game, there were two of these, and after we killed khaan it was said in the write-up that only one mafia was left. Now, there is another write-up mentioning a "rustling of papers"- these are more of the pro-treehugger documents used by the mafia to convert. I believe there are now two mafia among the living. My guess would be either Phill or YLC is one, but the new one could be anyone. Including Reenk and Ichigo.

My suggestion is: go for the first mafia this lynch; if you manage to get him, then forget about all the other evidence from before today, chances are it's irrelevant. If you don't get him, and the mafia kill during the night, then... well, we lose.

[White_eyes:D]

Hmm... retaliation vote, huh.

At this point, I'm not gonna take a guess at who's mafia, as I'm pretty confused myself. But, I will mentione this:

Every time CR has mentioned some sort of paper or pamplet or article in his write-up, it has meant that a mafia has been converted. In the early game, there were two of these, and after we killed khaan it was said in the write-up that only one mafia was left. Now, there is another write-up mentioning a "rustling of papers"- these are more of the pro-treehugger documents used by the mafia to convert. I believe there are now two mafia among the living. My guess would be either Phill or YLC is one, but the new one could be anyone. Including Reenk and Ichigo.

My suggestion is: go for the first mafia this lynch; if you manage to get him, then forget about all the other evidence from before today, chances are it's irrelevant. If you don't get him, and the mafia kill during the night, then... well, we lose.

yeah, but I don't think so.....I think its part of some sort of 'cool down' for the Mafias kill ability
each time they need some sort of 'inspiration to kill'....maybe writing a book helps? but still I think it is YLC if PP is not Mafia, as YLC's ability has yet to pan out and help town in any way......

[Yoyoma1910]

Hmm... retaliation vote, huh.

At this point, I'm not gonna take a guess at who's mafia, as I'm pretty confused myself. But, I will mentione this:

Every time CR has mentioned some sort of paper or pamplet or article in his write-up, it has meant that a mafia has been converted. In the early game, there were two of these, and after we killed khaan it was said in the write-up that only one mafia was left. Now, there is another write-up mentioning a "rustling of papers"- these are more of the pro-treehugger documents used by the mafia to convert. I believe there are now two mafia among the living. My guess would be either Phill or YLC is one, but the new one could be anyone. Including Reenk and Ichigo.

My suggestion is: go for the first mafia this lynch; if you manage to get him, then forget about all the other evidence from before today, chances are it's irrelevant. If you don't get him, and the mafia kill during the night, then... well, we lose.

Well I don't know.

My original theory was that this was a game with one mafia(GF), who had to recruit to extra mafias (goons).

PizzaGuy then tried to discourge this by saying it was more a recruiting cult. I think he did that to throw things off. Why do I think that?


Before any murders occured, we found two books. Since then, we've found none. Sure, there are papers rustling every other night, but what if that's because the mafia can only kill every other night?

Or maybe this line says something:

Fortunately for us, it appears that this enforcer of tyranny does not have great knowledge of mechanics. But he needs only succeed once to destroy all that we - and all that humanity - have so desperately struggled for."

Maybe the mafia is also trying to destroy the ship, and has to come to a better understanding of how it runs?

[White_eyes:D]

Maybe the mafia is also trying to destroy the ship, and has to come to a better understanding of how it runs?

THE COMM OFFICER.....we are screwed if it is not PP....

[Yoyoma1910]

Sorry I had what I believed to be a semi eureka moment, and lost my sense of decency. I was killed fair and square, and shouldn't really be talking

[ULC]

You do realize I would have to know how the ship runs to be it's Comm Officer, correct?

At Yoyoma - Very interesting theory, one that I proposed eons back in fact and which was quickly buried.

[Yoyoma1910]

I'm dead, and shouldn't be talking. Sorry, it was very impolite of me.

[White_eyes:D]

You do realize I would have to know how the ship runs to be it's Comm Officer, correct?

At Yoyoma - Very interesting theory, one that I proposed eons back in fact and which was quickly buried.

Well I guess you won, your not trying very hard to claim innocence with your 'ability'......
and of course a Comm officer would be easily able to sabotage the ship. HE IS the comm officer.....you know the GUY in CHARGE OF ALL COMMUTATIONS in case the ship is stranded or needs help?

[Yoyoma1910]

Gone out of respect

[White_eyes:D]

DAMN IT I knew it, this WHOLE time it was YLC......damn you Reenk why did you not listen? now even Yoyoma just gave reasons why YLC should have been lynched long ago.....I mean what will it take? half of the now dead and lynched town to convince you?
Yoyoma why didn't you say something sooner? now we are screwed.....

[Yoyoma1910]

Best of luck to both sides.

[Chaotix]

Just a random question...

To those of you who have played a good number of mafia games with YLC before: How does he usually fare in-game? Is he a very good and efficient player, or has he made numerous mistakes in past games that generally lead to him getting killed, or something to that effect?

I don't mean any offense toward YLC by this question, but if those of you who have played enough with YLC to know post your answers, it could help a lot.

[ULC]

Hang, wait what? How did this come about? What the heck Yoyoma? I am so lost now...

[White_eyes:D]

Yoyoma edited out what he said but I think it was because he had some pretty solid evidence that YLC is the Mafia but didn't want to kill it. (Yoyoma's like that but I am not)

Profile of YLC so far: he has always been annoyed when the Mafias are about to be lynched by a close tie when there is no proof present to the Mafias we lynched. Seems to have a lot of back up plans.....like the Pro-town role he came up with has and is very clever as shown how he avoided lynching so far....due to Reenk's "I have a gut feeling he is innocent" don't know how that will hold up if PP is not the guy.....

[ULC]

No actually Yoyoma PMed me. With his permission, I'd like to show it. And Yoyoma, your opinion is very valid, please, don't edit your posts, always present your thoughts and ideas to help the town. If you can still remember any of it, please post it again.

[Yoyoma1910]

Yoyoma edited out what he said but I think it was because he had some pretty solid evidence that YLC is the Mafia but didn't want to kill it. He got PMed by YLC no doubt, complaining he could be lynched at any moment and didn't want it to end that way (Yoyoma's like that but I am not)

Nobody PMed me.

And I have no evidence, only theories. I removed them of my own accord. There is ample reason to suspect anyone.

I just felt that since I am dead, I should remain as such. If someone else wants to go back and read through the posts in this thread, they are free to, and may come to similar theories.

[Yoyoma1910]

No actually Yoyoma PMed me. With his permission, I'd like to show it. And Yoyoma, your opinion is very valid, please, don't edit your posts, always present your thoughts and ideas to help the town. If you can still remember any of it, please post it again.

Feel free to quote my PM.

[White_eyes:D]

Nobody PMed me.

And I have no evidence, only theories. I removed them of my own accord. There is ample reason to suspect anyone.

I just felt that since I am dead, I should remain as such. If someone else wants to go back and read through the posts in this thread, there are free to, and may come to similar theories.

If the dead can post as long as it's not a reveal or something....and if you want there can be no discussion and the game could be boring..... I have fun making YLC's Mafia role hard easy

[Peasant Phill]

unvote: reenk, vote YLC

Maybe I'm able to save my hide after all.
And I damn well know i'm not the mafia, so ...

[White_eyes:D]

unvote: reenk, vote YLC

Maybe I'm able to save my hide after all.
And I damn well know i'm not the mafia, so ...

no I don't think so, Yoyoma removed his posts......and everyone thinks I am after YLC for no real reason and that you are the Mafia which; maybe you are but......

[Yoyoma1910]

Fine then:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

First I looked at this situation. Now the flaw with my logic in this act, is that it was before the second book was discovered. So, at that point I cannot be sure there were three mafia. In fact I don't think there were. However, if YLC were number 2, then he might have been trying to save the chosen third maf. Or maybe just Khaan...

?I don't know?

Actually, lets make this a three way tie, just for laughs.

unvote: pizza vote: makaikhaan

Tally:

Pizzaguy- 3
makaikhaan- 3
Rythmic- 3

Abstain- 3
Andres- 1
Peasant Phill- 1
pevergreen- 1
Sigurd - 1
Seamus - 1

Unvote: Sigurd, Vote: Rythmic

Wonderful reasoning there. To much depth and a three way tie that wastes only more time, and lives? No.

In b4 the close.

vote:makaikhaan

Sorry, Buddy. But your posts stink of maff. If you're not, I apologize.

Re: pizzaguy: if a maff would go to the lengths this guy has gone to camouflage his true role, we have a new, excellent player/liar. I'd leave him alone for awhile.

There is a tie!
Between Makaikhaan and Rythmic!

Makaikhaan:4 (Chaotix, White eyes, Rythmic, Kukri)
Rythmic: 4 (Aries, Reenk, YLC, Pizzaguy)

Pizzaguy: 3 (pevergreen, yoyoma, Andres)
Reenk Roink:0 ()
pevergreen: 1 (shlin)
Peasant Phill: 1 (Sigurd)
Andres:1(makai)
Sigurd: 0 ()

Seamus: 1 (Ichigo)
Abstain:3 (Seamus, Peasant Phill, AtPG)

In accordance with the long established rules, those two are the only possible lynch choices for today - and whoever breaks the tie will decide who is to be lynched!

CR

I really don't know who it is.


It could be YLC. I started thinking along that line after the Pizza/Chaotix tie. Both he and Khaan kept urging me to vote Chaotix. Of course, I couldn't make the connection at that time, because Khaan hadn't actually been caught.

He also then voted for me, literally, first thing after the end of that night, even though I had chosen not to save Pizza. When I confronted him about it, he voted Khaan, which could have been to try and distance their relation. Later that turn he switched his vote again.

But then the Chaotix mix up occurred, which distracted everything. I had lost that train of thought. The next solid suspicion I had was Khaan, and after I voted for him I was offed. So I started to focus on other things, such as RL.



Anyway, there also several hints that point to PP, the Janitor. The pipe, the puddle on the bathroom floor, this phrase from when I was offed:

Perhaps now you will appreciate its evil before I cleanse this universe of another parasite

[ULC]

Sorry. I shouldn't have done that. Whether or not you are guilty, only you know.

But I am dead, and even though dead are allowed to discuss in the thread, in many ways I don't believe it's very classy. I was killed fair and square.

However, I got caught up in a train of thought, and started talking.

Anyway, I went and edited out all the posts where I specifically mention you or PP.


Please accept my apology.

The PM that Yoyoma sent me.

I am glad you brought that up Yoyoma, it is an interesting point and should be taken into consideration. That was a well thought out examination of those rounds, and I wish I had half that ability, since I was utterly unaware I had done that.

[Mithrandir]

If the maffia can still convert, it'd explain why there was an attack on ichigo and not on RR...

[White_eyes:D]

If the maffia can still convert, it'd explain why there was an attack on ichigo and not on RR...

He was attacked because if you remember Reenk never mentioned his name in the list of suspects, he was only after the 'confrimed innocent' so this way everyone would suspect each other...and its working since all the guys on Reenks list are lynched but no Mafia still.....

[Crazed Rabbit]

Phill: 111 (Reenk, YLC, Seamus)
YLC: 1 (Phill)

After a rather long day, the crew had decided whom to imprison. One crewmember, Peasant Phill, had been chosen somewhat by consensus. He protested his innocence as he was led to the cryo-chamber, but to no avail.

The Captain kept a sharp eye on him the whole time, but he did not resist being put into the cryo-chamber.

When it was over, he turned to the crew, a grim look upon his face.

"The killer is still here, in this room, among you four," he turned to pace the room.

"We have made so little progress these last few days. It seems like we are on the wrong path and cannot get off of it. We are stuck, flailing wildly in the dark, and our actions come to nothing, and the killer conspires to keep us there. And he is succeeding!"

He stopped and stood for some time. Then he dismissed the crew and warned them to be vigilant during the night. As they left, he went quickly to the bridge.

Alive (4)

Ichigo
YLC
Seamus
Reenk Roink


Killed (6)

Lord Winter
Andres
shlin28
beefy187
Yoyoma
White Eyes


Thrown Out the Air-Lock (2)

KukriKhan
twilightblade

Imprisoned (11)

Rythmic
glyphz
Sigurd
Askthepizzaguy
Chaotix
Pevergreen
Aries777777
makaikhaan
Mithrandir
Alexander The Pretty Good
Peasant Phill

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Oh poopy.