No better than them

[PanzerJaeger]

What you say is true, but I think what people take exception to is your constant efforts to minimize the holocaust, such as calling it "no more than a footnote." It is true that anti-Semitism was rather rife even amongst the Allies, many of whom refused Jewish refugees throughout the war. But I think you are not doing the cause of "German pride", which you seem to espouse, any favors by going around and trying to yammer at people to stop thinking the holocaust was such a big deal.

That is not my intention at all. I only seek historical reality.

Panzer, here's a hypothetical case for you:

Leroy Williams rapes and murders white women for several years. Then the Tennesee police catches him. They fry his arse on the chair.
Does this make the US goverment his moral equal? Are the people of Tennessee now no better than this black serial killer?
I mean, they are murderers too by putting him on the chair. And they have a history of racism too, just like our black serial killer.

Or is there a difference?

That would depend on your stance on the death penalty. I think that any comparison between your hypothetical case and WW2 is more than just a stretch.

Here's a hypothetical for you:

Lets say Hans kills a man because he believes said man is truly evil, and is part of a conspiracy to take advantage of his people. Now lets say John kills a man to show off his cool new gun to his peers.

Which act is worse?

Glad you take pride in Russian deaths. Communists aren't human to you, are they?

I don't enjoy communists, no.

If you care to research it, you can find dozens of incidents over the course of the war where the US or the British or one of our Allies behaved cruelly or with malice aforethought engaged in some action that was immoral even by the flimsy morality of war. Then set yourself a harder challenge and find me a week -- any week -- where the Nazis weren't.

I am not the one insistent on the moral superiority of one side or the other.

Forgive me if I am mistaken, but your entire argument seems to rest on the notion: "We did terrible things, but they did it first... "

That just isn't a strong argument, imho. It would certainly not hold up in court.

That begs the question, if the germans weren't all nazis, why would you assume that all those russians were communists?

I did not assume that all Russians were communists. I simply stated that the German military had killed lots of communists, which is fact.