No better than them

[Koga No Goshi]

Then why, pray tell, are we getting posts that state that "the Germans had what was coming to them" (Post #27)?

Because people feel that while destruction was sometimes wanton on both sides, and neither side was innocent of any wrongdoing, the Allies--- despite much more direct cause to have done so than Germany had when it came to the Jews or other "enemies" of the German State, didn't set up camps for the industrialized mass destruction of the German people. Nor did the Allies carry out such a thing on the Japanese, or any other group during the war.

Kicking someone out for being x ethnicity = not a moral thing to do

But in the greater context of the war? To point out that this happened and then insist that the countries doing so made the anti-Nazi war effort every bit as immoral as Auschwitz or the final solution is offensive to many, and, I believe, logically unsupportable.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Kicking someone out for being x ethnicity = not a moral thing to do

But in the greater context of the war? To point out that this happened and then insist that the countries doing so made the anti-Nazi war effort every bit as immoral as Auschwitz or the final solution is offensive to many, and, I believe, logically unsupportable.

As far as I can see PJ is the only one who might be suggesting that.

I think that EMFM and myself are just a little bit surprised at blanket statements regarding 'the Germans' and how 'they got what was coming to them'. When comparing the regimes, Nazi Germany was evil, and the Allies just committed some nasty acts out of necessity (well arguably but I think so), it was a total war after all. But that does not mean that the individual German citizens deserved to suffer. Earlier on in this thread some posters didn't seem to show them any compassion, apparently only because they were Germans.

[PanzerJaeger]

I think that EMFM and myself are just a little bit surprised at blanket statements regarding 'the Germans' and how 'they got what was coming to them'. When comparing the regimes, Nazi Germany was evil, and the Allies just committed some nasty acts out of necessity (well arguably but I think so), it was a total war after all. But that does not mean that the individual German citizens deserved to suffer. Earlier on in this thread some posters didn't seem to show them any compassion, apparently only because they were Germans.

Hate to nit pick, but I don't see the necessity of Dresden or Hiroshima. Thats a tired debate though...

Action "A" was deemed evil; Action "B" is also evil; therefore Action A and B are the same.

You fail to account for degrees of evil, a concept with which most persons agree.

If the discussion has (d)evolved into a comparison of degrees of evil, I think my point has been taken better than I expected.

[Koga No Goshi]

Hate to nit pick, but I don't see the necessity of Dresden or Hiroshima. Thats a tired debate though...

I would agree with you, I think the thing you get out of order though is that the Allies didn't start the war hoping to flatten Dresden and Hiroshima to fulfill their ideologies. :) They are actions that, while very questionable and controversial, entered the realm of "rational possibilities" only because of WWII. Germany, on the other hand, had no legitimate external grievance upon which to justifiably start mass invading Europe or killing Jews.