Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar View Post
What? The Allies sat down with the Czechs and said, "yeah go ahead", in actual fact we don't really care about ethnic cleansing or mass murder, we never started the war because of it and in fact we are off to go and do some of our own now.

People have been stating that what happened was justified or acceptable and we can just forget about it. Bollocks, if we do that we are accepting that ethnic cleansing is just fine in some cases.
As someone whose existence would not have been possible in a post-Axis victory world, I would not condone the full extent of everything bad that happened to any German in WWII, but I would say I am pretty glad that if WWII was inevitable it concluded the way that it did. My sticking point would be that I do feel the use of nuclear weapons on civilian populations was unsupportable, but given that the Allies/U.S. never sought to mass exterminate the Japanese people, I would still shy very much away from saying this act, while singularly horrific, made the Allies just like the Axis "except that they won instead of lost."

I am not really sure why it's difficult to accept someone saying "yes, that was racist and immoral, but a huge war was going on across the globe, with ethnic cleansing and mass murder of huge proportions going on across continents, and out of the two sides, the one vastly less directly embracing of genocidal agendas came out the winner, and I'm glad." I'm part Native and also through my dad's side of the family from Hawaii, related to Japanese people as well who were here in the U.S. during WWII, so you'd never get a fullthroated conviction out of me that the U.S. or any other western power has never done vicious biologically racist things. But I think out of all of the unreported or underacknowledged human tragedies in the world, I have but you and Panzer's word to take that what happened to Germans was one of the worst, if not the worst. I mean, try to talk to the typical American about genocide conducted on Native Americans.... or talk to Japan about their own role in WWII. These sorts of national denials of crimes is not exactly unique to anyone, not even the Germans, Bopa.