No better than them

[PanzerJaeger]

Panzerjäger and the others who argue against the assertion: Our thoughts on the subject are too rational and are therefore thrown out. Give up, unless debates are more with facts and less with emotions. My opinion anyway....

No, I think progress has been made. If we continue to speak the truth whenever these subjects arise and not let ourselves be cowed by the "OMG N@ZI DENIER!!1" crowd, history will eventually be rectified.

I am fully aware bad things happened to the Germans. Im not debating with emotions at all. The Germans should be happy for any mercy anyone showed them. The relativism in this thread is mind boggling. The Allies could've have done much worse and cooler heads prevailed even after the Germans had there last machismo filled hurrah. Did Americans Brits and Russians always act humanely? No The shoe went on the other foot ,its war thats why it sucks because people die and sometimes they are tortured raped and killed thats why you shouldnt start a war simply because you think you are better than everyone else.

I'm sorry, but being attacked does not give one carte blanche to carry out crimes against humanity on a massive scale. Being attacked does not impart the moral justification to drop fire bombs and nuclear weapons on the attacker once they are beaten. No, there's no justification for incinerating women and children, not in Auschwitz and not in Dresden. How amazingly cruel is it to annihilate two cities - housing hundreds of thousands of refugees from other cities burned to the ground - just to show off?

Yes, the relativism in this thread is mind boggling.

In '91, would the allies have been justified in dropping a nuclear weapon on Baghdad? In '03, would Hussein have been justified in gassing American troops?

How your enemy behaves does not legitimize immoral actions. The allies weren't even up against the wall when they carried out their largest war crimes, they'd practically won.