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    Default The Girandoni Air rifle - Far ahead of its time

    This thread is reserved for one of the most stunning weapons ever built - the Girandoni Air rifle.

    A detailed study can be found here

    As of May 2003 they were only willing to indicate that this system could project a lead ball, of about one-half inch diameter, of about 210 grains to a muzzle velocity of at least 500 fps for about 117 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy. Colin Currie reported (personal communication May 18, 2003) that the Royal Armories of Leeds, England recently charged the Heiberger .433 caliber air rifle, a formerly single shot air rifle made about 1750 but converted to a 23 shot Girandoni-style repeating system[6], apparently in the early to mid-1800s, to about 800 lbs/sq. inch and achieved a muzzle velocity of over 900 fps with balls of 120.4 grains for a muzzle energy of 217 ft. lbs. He reported that 1500 strokes were needed to pump up the Heiberger‘s buttstock reservoir to operating pressure after 20 shots had been fired from one charging/loading.

    Larry Hannusch (personal communication, Nov. 27, 2002) reported that he has fired his own large bore Girandoni-system rifle (by Lowentz) producing 200 ft lbs. muzzle energy at 750 psi pressure, but that a muzzle energy of up to 150 ft. lbs. would be more typical at conservative pressures. Many references to the Girandoni air rifles mention lethal combat ranges of 125 to 150 yards and some extend that range considerably
    Given that it had a magazine of 22 shots a trained marksman could have had a considerable effect for accurate fire in ranges far in excess a musket, without giving away his position too easily. A relative small caliber allowed for considerable muzzle velocity of 150 m/s with a roughly 13 gr. heavy bullet.

    So why did it not become the staple weapon of the Austrian army?

    “Due to their construction, these guns were much more difficult to use effectively than normal, as one had to handle them much more cautiously and carefully. In addition, the soldiers using them had to be supervised extremely carefully, as they were unsure about the operation. The guns become inoperable after a very short time – so much so that after awhile no more than one third of them were still is in a usable state. We needed the whole winter to repair and replace them.”
    So they started to field them only to selected sharpshooters:

    After this it was deemed wise to take back the airguns and issue them only to select, specially trained Tyrolean sharpshooter units. The last order given by the Emperor prior to his death was “to select the most promising and skilful soldiers to use these guns.” Because of extensive service work, and most importantly, the lack of Emperor Joseph’s interest and involvement, the airguns still had not been issued on December 16, 1792. However, the Tyrol Sharp Shooter Corps indicated “that these weapons were really accurate and effective” in the Turkish War and in 1790 against Prussia. (Contrary to many accounts, they never saw service against any of Napoleon's troops.) The air rifles were later supplied only with the wheeled and short hand pumps behind the lines – the idea being that captured airguns would not be very useful without the pumps!
    So what do you think about this rifle?
    "Silent enim leges inter arma - For among arms, the laws fall mute"
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    Default Re: The Girandoni Air rifle - Far ahead of its time

    Sounds like if you invest enough tech research into it, you can turn the tide of battles.

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    Default Re: The Girandoni Air rifle - Far ahead of its time

    I think this should go to the monastery, to recieve proper discussion.

    /KotR

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