Stele #7: Making the Models

**Mithridates VI Eupator** · 10-27-2008, 00:26

Wow!

Facinating.
Thats one real dream-team in action here.

And beautiful looking pictures, as always!

EDIT: Oh, gosh! I didn't see them the first time i looked, but now I did....

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Spartan198** · 10-27-2008, 00:58

I never knew a linothorax had sleeves...

Meh...you learn something new everyday.

**abou** · 10-27-2008, 01:05

Originally Posted by Spartan198

I never knew a linothorax had sleeves...

Meh...you learn something new everyday.

The sleeves are from the shirt underneath, not explicitly part of the linothorax.

**Majd il-Romani** · 10-27-2008, 03:48

this rocks man! Go EB team!

**Tuuvi** · 10-27-2008, 05:17

First off I'd like to say amazing work guys! The skins look beautiful, the animations are great, and it's cool to learn a bit about the team members and how the modding is organized. Now I'd like to add some constructive criticism...

One hobby of mine is traditional archery, and I have been involved with it for a few years. When I watched the animations for the archers I thought they were an improvement over the vanilla ones, however one of the first things I noticed was that the archers moved as soon the arrow was released. This is considered bad form and results in horrible accuracy. Correct form would be to hold your position after releasing the arrow; you are not supposed to move until the arrow hits the target. I understand that in warfare archers shot in volleys rather than focusing on personal accuracy, so correct form probably did not matter as much. Also they would have shot over greater distances than while hunting or target shooting, so that rule might not apply. I am no historian but personally I think they would have held their posture for at least a couple of seconds before moving, giving the arrow plenty of time to get away from them. To fix the animation all you need to do is have the archers stay still for maybe a fraction of a second instead of moving right after they shoot.

I hope this helps
Lignator

**Megas Methuselah** · 10-27-2008, 05:54

OMG OMG OMG!!!

THE ELEFONTES AND THE PHALANGITAI ARE SO AWESOMELY MAGNIFICIENT!!! WOOOOOW!!!!

**JMRC** · 10-28-2008, 12:56

Originally Posted by Lignator

One hobby of mine is traditional archery, and I have been involved with it for a few years. When I watched the animations for the archers I thought they were an improvement over the vanilla ones, however one of the first things I noticed was that the archers moved as soon the arrow was released. This is considered bad form and results in horrible accuracy. Correct form would be to hold your position after releasing the arrow; you are not supposed to move until the arrow hits the target. I understand that in warfare archers shot in volleys rather than focusing on personal accuracy, so correct form probably did not matter as much. Also they would have shot over greater distances than while hunting or target shooting, so that rule might not apply. I am no historian but personally I think they would have held their posture for at least a couple of seconds before moving, giving the arrow plenty of time to get away from them. To fix the animation all you need to do is have the archers stay still for maybe a fraction of a second instead of moving right after they shoot.

Thanks for your feedback!

This part of the animation (releasing the arrow) wasn't much changed from the vanilla version. Your advice and suggestion are very welcome, so we'll make a small research into this matter and make any necessary adjustments, which probably include the additional frames that you spoke.

**mcantu** · 10-28-2008, 14:08

amazing, amazing work guys!

about the shield w/the bull...the coin it is shown being based on has the bull charging and its right-front foot on the ground. the image on the shield has the bull laying down w/the right-front foot underneath the body. was this intentional?

**Tuuvi** · 10-29-2008, 23:44

Originally Posted by JMRC

Thanks for your feedback!

This part of the animation (releasing the arrow) wasn't much changed from the vanilla version. Your advice and suggestion are very welcome, so we'll make a small research into this matter and make any necessary adjustments, which probably include the additional frames that you spoke.

You're welcome

. If you want I can send you links to some archery websites, they could help you out a little in other areas of the mod as well.