Popularis or Optimas

[Tarkus]

In my game all of my patricians are Optimas and all of my plebians are Popularis o.O

My experience as well.

I now have a 23-year-old plebian with the Popularis trait, a load of influence, and I just got him his first command star in Cisalpine Gaul. Just a few more battles to get that second star, and with a nomination to consul I'll be off to the Marian reforms.

[Mulceber]

Just wanted to point out, Tarkus, that your general is going to need a third star as well - the list of required traits for the Marian reforms lists "more than 2 command."

hmm...it really sucks because it seems like most of my family members are patricians. Then there's the fact that I've already got a family member who has all the required traits EXCEPT popularis! hmm...maybe I'll just cheat to give him the popularis trait. Would that be workable and/or honorable? -M

[theoldbelgian]

well maybe if he is unselfish you can role play he got this trait by caring for the big masses, there have been a few examples of people of the upper class who wanted a better life for the common people

[Mulceber]

well he is unselfish, so I have that going for me.

How would I go about adding the trait?

I know the forumula is give_trait"character""trait""level number", but how would I apply it to the character? woud it be:

give_trait"SpvrivsFabivsAmbvstvs""popularis"

give_trait"Spvrivs_Fabivs_Ambvstvs""popularis"?

or:

give_trait"Spvrivs_Fabivs_Ambvstvs""popularis""1"

or:

give_traitSpvrivs_Fabivs_Ambvstvspopularis

It seems like there's any number of ways to do it. I tried the first and second ways I mentioned, but they had no effect. Does anybody know how this should be done? -M

[Wausser]

yeah Gaius Julius Caesar for example...

[Tarkus]

Just wanted to point out, Tarkus, that your general is going to need a third star as well - the list of required traits for the Marian reforms lists "more than 2 command."

Oops...you're absolutely right, Mulceber...I got a bit sloppy with my description there. Thanks much for pointing that out! He's a bad-ass young lad, so hanging out in Cisalpine Gaul for a couple years as cavalry commander under my grizzled veteran barbarian-slasher Aulus Gallicus should help mightily with the command experience. Thanks again!

[||Lz3||]

Oops...you're absolutely right, Mulceber...I got a bit sloppy with my description there. Thanks much for pointing that out! He's a bad-ass young lad, so hanging out in Cisalpine Gaul for a couple years as cavalry commander under my grizzled veteran barbarian-slasher Aulus Gallicus should help mightily with the command experience. Thanks again!

emm I think he must be the commanding officer if you want him to gain experience

[Tarkus]

emm I think he must be the commanding officer if you want him to gain experience

OK, that makes intuitive sense...I was just hoping that being the #2 guy behind the only general I have that received a Triumph in the streets of Rome may have served a similar purpose. Instead I guess I'll have to ship him off to the east to field his own army...

[Mulceber]

Oops...you're absolutely right, Mulceber...I got a bit sloppy with my description there. Thanks much for pointing that out! He's a bad-ass young lad, so hanging out in Cisalpine Gaul for a couple years as cavalry commander under my grizzled veteran barbarian-slasher Aulus Gallicus should help mightily with the command experience. Thanks again!

No problem, always happy to help.

So anyway, does anybody know how to properly enter the "give trait" cheat? I've tried all the variations on that I can think of, but the game keeps telling me it doesn't recognize the character. -M

[Cbvani]

No problem, always happy to help.

So anyway, does anybody know how to properly enter the "give trait" cheat? I've tried all the variations on that I can think of, but the game keeps telling me it doesn't recognize the character. -M

The family names are found in a certain file. They do not match the character's displayed name. This is a bother for me too, but I can't remember which file you need to examine has the info you need.

[Mulceber]

darn. Anybody know what file the family member names are in? -M

[Tarkus]

Mulceber -- try ...EB\Data\descr_names.txt

I think this will work.