Spartan Agoge

[Sikander]

Does anyone know which traits trigger a "succesfull" training in the agoge?. More than often the agoge corrupts my proud youth, making them nothing but mediocre governors. It seems that i get better FM´s by avoiding the agoge. Can someone specify?

[Maion Maroneios]

If your fella is optimistic, sharp and vigorous, he will have a higher possibility of even joining the Krypteia, which means that he excelled in the Agoge. But you can look this up somewhere in the FAQ, me thinks.

Maion

[SwissBarbar]

most young men go under the agoge. they have to stay in sparte and must not leave till its completet (when they are 20)... or if they go under the krypteia, wich is even better, they have to stay in the province of sparte, but not in the city itself.


if they leave too early, they have failed and stay of course loosers for the rest of their lives ;-)

[Celtic_Punk]

I only send Spartans to the agoge. Athenians turn out to be retards especially if they go to it.

[Nobo]

Yea, that's usually what I do. I turn Sparte into my military training centre and only send spartans to get trained there. In Athens I build up academies and give my athenians a good education....

[LordCurlyton]

You want to build up the education facilities in Sparta too. That way you start getting massively useful FMs.

[desert]

I once sent an Athenian (Doros son of Chremonides) to the agoge just for kicks. He got into the krypteia and became an uber-general, with 5 stars before he ever saw any combat. Unfortunately, I got him and another FM killed in a stupid defense against a Bithnian sally.

[Olaf Blackeyes]

Whenever i get an Agoge with ANY general and they go into combatthey usually die the first time

[Maion Maroneios]

I once sent an Athenian (Doros son of Chremonides) to the agoge just for kicks. He got into the krypteia and became an uber-general, with 5 stars before he ever saw any combat. Unfortunately, I got him and another FM killed in a stupid defense against a Bithnian sally.

Could you please prove how exactly that happened. Just the traits would be fine.

Maion

[desert]

He died a long time ago, so it's difficult to remember.

He had versions of those 3 command traits, _ tactician, _ leader, understanding of tactics (correct me if those aren't right), and he got 2 command from the tactician because he was advanced in that trait. He also had an ancilliary that raised his command by 1 when attacking, so that woud make 5.

[Maion Maroneios]

I see. It's just that it's quite rare to see any generals with more than 4 command stars, especially for me who gets characters with the "Hypermethyskos" trait that lowers command

Maion