German Identity

**Alexanderofmacedon** · 11-01-2008, 23:51

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

Germans should be able to have pride in their nation and its ideals, just as anyone else from another country. However, don't be proud of yourself just because you are German, that is wrong.

If we seriously judge people by their ancestors, then I suppose Mongolians would be the most evil and murderous lot on earth. To carry out such an extensive campaign of murder, rape, and destruction from Burma to the steppes is an unbelievable feat, even moreso considering this took place in the middle ages. Do we judge Mongolians today by this - no! We do not tell them to be ashamed, and rightfully so.

Of course, as Louis said this does not in any way justify what the Nazi's did and I'm not aiming at revisionism, rather my point is that the Nazi's represent a couple of decades out of thousands of years of Germanic history.

There should be nothing wrong with being proud simply because they are German.

**Husar** · 11-02-2008, 07:29

Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon

There should be nothing wrong with being proud simply because they are German.

I don't know why I should be proud simply for being german.

**Incongruous** · 11-02-2008, 23:19

Originally Posted by Husar

I don't know why I should be proud simply for being german.

Well, it is the society into which you were born, a society of remarkable achievement and history, by being a German you are the heir to this legacy, left to you by your elders and being proud of it is a way of recognising what they did and spurring yourself to better things.

I feel proud simply for having been born in London, in England and in Britain. To me it incites only positive thoughts and feelings.

Such as beating all those foriegners in '04.

**Strike For The South** · 11-02-2008, 23:32

You Euros are so cute

**Sarmatian** · 11-03-2008, 00:00

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

You Euros are so cute

Not at first but we grow on you...

**Strike For The South** · 11-03-2008, 00:13

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

Not at first but we grow on you...

*pats head*

**CrossLOPER** · 11-03-2008, 04:12

So long as it does not get to the "why do you hate freedom" stage, there isn't really anything wrong with being proud of your country.

**HoreTore** · 11-03-2008, 07:02

Originally Posted by Husar

I don't know why I should be proud simply for being german.

Yay! My anti-patriot comrade!

Feelings like patriotism and nationalism belongs on the football pitch, people. It clouds the mind when applied elsewhere.

**CountArach** · 11-03-2008, 07:28

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Yay! My anti-patriot comrade!

Feelings like patriotism and nationalism belongs on the football pitch, people. It clouds the mind when applied elsewhere.

Yeah. I think it is fine to feel proud of the people who you call your fellow citizens (When they truly deserve it), but being proud of a concept, such as a country, is IMO not right.