Question about Armies of Makedonia

[satalexton]

i think they MIGHT have...if the romans didn't wipe them out so quickly.... D=

oh the horrid horrid romans...

[Maion Maroneios]

I agree with you. They are filthy, fish smelling, over proud of their pathetic ''republic'' dogs. Pah! :-P

Maion

[teh1337tim]

actaully they did field the thorikita in considerable numbers after their phalanx was bested again and again in rough grounds... they had to chose between the hysteroi pezhetarioi or the thorikita due to model limits etc...same reason arche seleukid got the ubber tank thorikita but no hetaroi pezheteroi

[Maion Maroneios]

I think you have confused things a bit. AS or Ptolies never developed a unit like the Hysteroi, which are purely a Makedonian design for countering Roman opressors. Now Thorakitai weren't used in great numbers or at all by the Makedonians, at least that's what I've heard from at least one EB member. Also, you could rationalize the fact that it wouldn't be easy to field great numbers of Thorakitai, as the Makedonian Wars would probably have bleeded their coffers dry and - let's face it - training and arming someone as a Thorakites was expensive

Maion

[Dutchhoplite]

Did the macedonians really field a mail clad phalanx??

I know Seleucid phalangists are mentioned wearing mail...

In 1 Maccabees 6 a large part of the Seleucid army is wearing mail:

The number of his forces was a hundred thousand foot soldiers, twenty thousand horsemen, and thirty-two elephants accustomed to war. They came through Idumea and encamped against Beth-Zur, and for many days they fought and built engines of war; but the Jews sallied out and burned these with fire, and fought manfully. Then Judas marched away from the citadel and encamped at Beth-Zechariah, opposite the camp of the king.

Early in the morning the king rose and took his army by a forced march along the road to Beth-Zechariah, and his troops made ready for battle and sounded their trumpets. They showed the elephants the juice of grapes and mulberries, to arouse them for battle. And they distributed the beasts among the phalanxes; with each elephant they stationed a thousand men armed with coats of mail, and with brass helmets on their heads; and five hundred picked horsemen were assigned to each beast.

Are these pike or thorakitai?? If they are thorakitai it would mean there are (about) 320000 thousand of them...

Yes, numbers in ancient sources

[Ibrahim]

as for mail, that's relative; mail in hebrew it may actually refer to any armor suit (depends on the langauge). Does anyone here know the hebrew or aramaic words for diff. armor?, so he can compare to the origional script?

[Phalanx300]

In the unofficial EB Manual you can find some things about Macedon. (its in the unofficial modding area)