The Final US Election Thread

**Incongruous** · 11-05-2008, 07:50

Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi

Perhaps? ;)

Ok, it was racist, but tbh I am not sure whether or not he is being serious

**PanzerJaeger** · 11-05-2008, 08:04

I will say that it will be nice to be off the defensive. It's always easier to complain and criticize than to have to try and get things done. I predict the honeymoon won't even last 100 days... Carter anyone?

**JAG** · 11-05-2008, 08:11

PJ - if you think Obama is a 'Carter' you have underestimated him.

SO, as Indiana is called for Obama by 1% - damn I said he would win by 2 at the start of all this - I am going to go to bed.

7.15 am up all night, well worth it.

Woot, woot.

to the USA!

**Koga No Goshi** · 11-05-2008, 08:13

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

I will say that it will be nice to be off the defensive. It's always easier to complain and criticize than to have to try and get things done. I predict the honeymoon won't even last 100 days... Carter anyone?

Anyone thought Obama was walking into a honeymoon? In seriousness Panzer, this whole "he thinks he's Messiah and his supporters do too" thing was pure pundit/Fox koolaid. Obama has never said anything would be easy or quick nor do I think Dems in general think "woohoo the country is now our playdough fun factory." This was like inheriting someone's mansion, with the caveat that the yard is full of radioactive waste and you have to clean it up yourself.

PJ - if you think Obama is a 'Carter' you are have underestimated him.

Don't you mean misunderestimated? :)

**LittleGrizzly** · 11-05-2008, 08:57

He, even more than the vast majority of his own party, understood that the moment of change was not 2040, when our demographics will have shifted, but now. The white males, whose vote told all in presidential elections from 1792 to 2004 are no longer the key vote. Crafting an entirely new coalition from under 25s, blacks and hispanics -- augmented by our traditional "left" -- Barack Obama is effecting a sea-change in U.S. politics.

This is what i was referring to with my reegan comment, not the margin of victory... which is highly impressive, but a sea change in american politics... and about damn time

McCain's speech was great! so gracious in defeat, i gained alot of respect for him off that speech and his silencing off the boo's, I too am deeply upset that it had to be mccain that was defeated by obama, almost any other member of the gop and really wouldn't give a damn, but mccain despite his campaign is something a bit different...

I really really hope Obama can include him in his goverment, mccain deserves nothing less

Don im glad the kool aid has worn off slightly... Ill admit i cant now this, but do you really think obama will make the middle classes (im thinking around your income) homeless ? even if there where some greater idealogical goal driving him the simple bad politics of such a move, will mean he will not... Redleg's post in the old election thread probably summed the situation up quite well..

A great day for american politics!

Im about to write a very long post on all the reasons this is so great.... the anticipation is killing you already ?

**Hooahguy** · 11-05-2008, 13:12

well, obama is our new president.
now i wonder if ill keep my job.......
(the buisness i work for is one of those "big" small buisnesses that obama promised to raise taxes on.
but now, IMO, obama built himself up so high and promised so much, i dont think half of what he said will be carried out.
anyhow, obamaran a great campaign and i congradulate him and his supporters. may the next 4 years be prosperous for everyone.

**Banquo's Ghost** · 11-05-2008, 14:15

Hey Beirut, wonderful to see you popping by. You have been hugely missed.

**PBI** · 11-05-2008, 14:33

So I was wondering, what exactly happens next? Am I right in thinking that although the election is over, Obama will not actually be in power until he is sworn in in January, so the next two months all he will be doing is to decide what he will do once he does take power?

I.e., if there is a big crisis in the next month, it will still be Bush's job to deal with it, not Obama's?

Apologies if these are silly questions, it's just that in the UK power changes hands quite quickly after an election so it seems a bit odd that in the US there is a two-month delay; I wasn't sure whether this is purely a ceremonial thing and Obama, although not technically President yet, has actual control between now and January.

And as others have said, it is great to see you again Beirut.