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    I shall happilly leave their uneasy balance between church and state to our American patrons.

    Meanwhile, Obama is surrounding himself with former (Bill) Clinton aides. There is even talk of naming that woman Secretary of State. I, for one, am quite happy with this recent turn of events.

    Anybody else happy / disgusted at the prospect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    I shall happilly leave their uneasy balance between church and state to our American patrons.

    Meanwhile, Obama is surrounding himself with former (Bill) Clinton aides. There is even talk of naming that woman Secretary of State. I, for one, am quite happy with this recent turn of events.

    Anybody else happy / disgusted at the prospect?
    Oh, utterly disgusted, but not suprised.

    Obama's first 2 orders of business will be to appoint Emanuel and Clinton to his Cabinet. Congratulations people in the middle who voted for Obama in order to close the doors of the present to the social conflicts of the past 20 years.

    I want Chuck Hagel to get a nod in this administration.
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    clinton..... as secretary of state..... thats scary...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    Oh, utterly disgusted, but not suprised.
    Seconded. It's already bad enough that she's a Senator. The notion of her wielding even more power and influence is abhorrent to me.
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    Let's see... Clinton behaved like an spoiled child throwing a tantrum during the primaries, and provided John McCain with arguments (albeit bad ones) against Obama, using ad hominem arguments just like McCain did, and almost buried the Democrats in resentment over her failure to win the nomination, with many choosing not to support the ticket even though the policies were nearly identical, and instead sit out the election or support the rival ticket, which directly contradicted their stated philosophy.

    Clinton is therefore an unwise choice in such a responsibility-bearing position in our government, because she's low, dirty, and unethical. She'd step over her own mother to seize power.

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    I hope the rumours are wrong and that he gives the Secretary of State position to Richardson instead. He is much more qualified and I think would make a great Secreatary of State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    I hope the rumours are wrong and that he gives the Secretary of State position to Richardson instead. He is much more qualified and I think would make a great Secreatary of State.
    I'd be much happier with Richardson.
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    Agreed.

    Richardson is experienced, qualified, and very good at what he does. I also don't get a lot of "partisan idealogue" from him.

    I think Reps and Dems alike would prefer this man. Hillary is a bitter, divisive, fake politician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    I hope the rumours are wrong and that he gives the Secretary of State position to Richardson instead. He is much more qualified and I think would make a great Secreatary of State.
    I quite liked Richardson at first; then his primary campaign when to and he tried to gather scrap votes by promising that he'd pull back all troops from Iraq instantaneously when elected. The other democratic candidates reprimanded him for it.

    I'd still pick him instead of Clinton, of course.

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    A good, pithy summary of why Hillary R. Clinton should not be SecState:

    1. Hillary Clinton will have her own agenda (as will her husband). She’s not a team player and will bring in a crew of cronies whose chief aim will be to promote the boss, not the administration. Obama may wake up one day and discover that Hillary has decreed a new “Clinton Doctrine” of foreign policy.
    2. It would be impossible, politically, to fire Hillary. No matter what she says or does, or how insubordinate, Obama will be stuck with her as long as she wants to stay.
    3. Her husband is a walking conflict of interest. Bill helps a Canadian businessman land a uranium contract in Kazakhstan, and soon afterwards the businessman contributes to the Clinton Foundation. Bill’s personal and business dealings are embarrassing enough without Hillary heading the State Department.
    4. The Clinton style of management–for example, pitting one faction of staff against another–would be a disaster at the State Department. Just look at how well it worked on the campaign trail.
    5. And the strongest strike of all against Hillary as secretary of state… look at who endorses her.

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