Tuff:Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
Comm Director is a classic spot for a communications/rhetoric savvy person who was part of your campaign communication/rhetoric team. Moran certainly qualifies. What's with the angst?
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Tuff:
Comm Director is a classic spot for a communications/rhetoric savvy person who was part of your campaign communication/rhetoric team. Moran certainly qualifies. What's with the angst?
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Seamus, if you do a quick google for EMILY's List, you'll find it supports pro-choice Democrats
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Have you just been dumped?
I ask because it's usually something like that which causes outbursts like this, needless to say I dissagree completely.
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Yes. If I learned anything from the West Wing it's that the Comm Director is in charge of getting the speeches written and controlling the White House message.
When that job is in the hands of someone who has made it their life's mission to obliterate any unborn life issues, my feathers get riled up.
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You sound surprised... A pro-woman group supporting pro-choice people, who would have thought?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_for_Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-life_feminism
Pro-life doesn't mean anti-woman.
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Murat/TSM:
Hey guys, I wasn't saying I found Obama's stance on right-to-life acceptable, I was merely commenting that it was hardly surprising that someone with her skill set/political outlook would get tapped for that position. It doesn't make me any more/less upset with Obama on that issue. Short of him having a "road to Damascus" moment, he's going to pick someone with that frame of reference. I am going to oppose him (them) on that issue. Feels more of a "yeah, 'bout what I expected" moment to me.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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Of course not, but Abortion is truly a women's issue. Being pro-life is far more likely to mean you are pro-feminist. The idea that a woman can make her own choices overlaps between the two positions. I personally find pro-life Feminism to be somewhat hypocritical in that way, because they are saying that women can make their own choices and decisions in life, but that the government should control their birth right.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_for_Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-life_feminism
Pro-life doesn't mean anti-woman.
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The women can control their birth right, the government isn't saying they have to become pregnant. It isn't hypocritical at all - these organizations simply may not see the baby as part of the woman, but as a being in itself. Therefore, they are protecting the rights of the being that happens to be inside the woman as well as the woman herself.
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Saying that abortion is a woman's issue is begging the question. By deciding that you are deciding that the unborn is not worthy of consideration.
Try to separate birth control from Abortion in your mind. One is a woman's rights issue, the other is a human rights issue.
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-Eric "George Orwell" Blair
"If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
(Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
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Steer back on topic, gentlemen.
Thank you kindly.
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Obama in the prep room
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Wow, that guy does the best Obama I've yet seen. SNL should hire him immediately.
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That's uncanny...he even looks almost exactly like Obama (about 15-20 years younger), moreso than Fey looked like Palin.
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