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    Βασιλευς και Αυτοκρατωρ Αρχης Member Centurio Nixalsverdrus's Avatar
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    Question Greek Names of Phoinike Cities?

    In order to avoid the further spamming of Carthage Reform markers after the year 200 in my current Makedonian campaign, I want to ask you for appropiate names for the Phoinike settlements in the area.

    Adrumeto = Adrumeton
    Atiqua = Atika?
    Kart-Hadast = Karchedon
    Lepki = Neapolis
    Lilibeo = Lilybaion?
    Ippone = ?
    Kirtan = will be called Thessalopolis ;)
    Gader = ?
    Mastia = ?
    Bocchoris = ?
    Alalia = ?
    Karali = ?
    Siga = ?
    Sala = ?
    Lixus = ?

    I could just change a little letter, for example Gader = Gadir. But I want it Hellenic since I am a true Hellen.

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    Default Re: Greek Names of Phoinike Cities?

    You could download the fix to get rid of that bug, or just delete the kart-hadast reform part of the script like I did (After a half dozen of those buildings appeared).

    As for Greek names, when you conquer a province you get the trait describing the region. That trait usually has the name of the province in that text. If the guy who conquered the region you are interested in is dead, you could try looking up the trait description in the "...EB/Data/text/" folder (I forget the name of the trait description file).


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    Default Re: Greek Names of Phoinike Cities?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus View Post
    In order to avoid the further spamming of Carthage Reform markers after the year 200 in my current Makedonian campaign, I want to ask you for appropiate names for the Phoinike settlements in the area.

    Adrumeto = Adrumeton
    Atiqua = Atika?
    Kart-Hadast = Karchedon
    Lepki = Neapolis
    Lilibeo = Lilybaion?
    Ippone = ?
    Kirtan = will be called Thessalopolis ;)
    Gader = Gadeira
    Mastia = ?
    Bocchoris = ?
    Alalia = Aleria/Alalia
    Karali = Karalis (thats the roman name, i think the greeks named it the same way)
    Siga = ?
    Sala = ?
    Lixus = ?

    I could just change a little letter, for example Gader = Gadir. But I want it Hellenic since I am a true Hellen.
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    Last edited by SwissBarbar; 11-05-2008 at 23:17.
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    Default Re: Greek Names of Phoinike Cities?

    Just be a little patient and keravnos will find them for you

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    Βασιλευς και Αυτοκρατωρ Αρχης Member Centurio Nixalsverdrus's Avatar
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    Default AW: Re: Greek Names of Phoinike Cities?

    Thank you SwissBarbar!

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    As for Greek names, when you conquer a province you get the trait describing the region. That trait usually has the name of the province in that text. If the guy who conquered the region you are interested in is dead, you could try looking up the trait description in the "...EB/Data/text/" folder (I forget the name of the trait description file).
    I know, but unfortunately not for every region exists a "Periegesis".

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus View Post
    You could download the fix to get rid of that bug, or just delete the kart-hadast reform part of the script like I did (After a half dozen of those buildings appeared).
    I downloaded them a while (~70 years) ago, and I believe them to be for the German reforms only. What I did now is the following: I set ";" before each line of the EBBS script since the part when the "console_command build Carthage1Reform" came into play. I hope this was a good idea.

    Code:
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    ;auskommentiert von mir am 6.11.2008 aufgrund Markerspam
    ;
    ;if I_TurnNumber >= 288
    ;
    ;console_command create_building Kart-Hadast "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Atiqa "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Gader "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Mastia "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Bocchoris "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Sala "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Lixus "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Adrumeto "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Lilibeo "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Lepki "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Karali "carthage1"
    ;set_counter Carthage_Reforms 1
    ;
    ;end_if
    ;
    ;if I_CompareCounter Carthage_Reformsinc1 >= 5
    ;and I_CompareCounter Carthage_Reformsinc2 >= 3
    ;
    ;console_command create_building Kart-Hadast "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Atiqa "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Gader "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Mastia "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Bocchoris "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Sala "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Lixus "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Adrumeto "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Lilibeo "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Lepki "carthage1"
    ;console_command create_building Karali "carthage1"
    ;set_counter Carthage_Reforms 1
    ;
    ;end_if
    ;
    ;if I_CompareCounter Carthage_Reforms < 1
    ;    set_counter Carthage_Reformsinc1 0
    ;    set_counter Carthage_Reformsinc2 0
    ;end_if
    ;end_monitor
    ;
    Dunno if it did the trick. Nevertheless I am very much interested in the Hellenic names for these cities. :)
    Last edited by Centurio Nixalsverdrus; 11-06-2008 at 01:56.

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    Default AW: Greek Names of Phoinike Cities?

    Didn't work. The "show me how" button appeared greyed out upon loading the campaign script. I deleted the entire section like MAA proposed and now it works.

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    Default Re: Greek Names of Phoinike Cities?

    For the record though, and in case this is ever needed due to changes elsewhere...

    Ippone = Hippone
    Kirtan = will be called Thessalopolis ;)
    Gader = Gadeira
    Mastia = As is
    Bocchoris = As is, it sounds like a greek name already
    Alalia = Aleria/Alalia
    Karali = Karalis (thats the roman name, i think the greeks named it the same way)

    Now for the difficult ones. If we take into account how the IndoGreeks named the territories of their own realm, a pattern can be visible, as we know the earlier hindu names of those territories.

    It ranged from changing it very little... Taksashila->Taxila to giving a citys' name to a region. Swat->Souastrene, Patala->Patalene etc. I guess this is about city names though so we will go like it was done in Taxila, aka leaving it as it was.

    Siga = Siga
    Sala = Sala
    Lixus = Lixos

    Hope that is good enough.


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    Default AW: Greek Names of Phoinike Cities?

    Thank you very much keravnos! I'm going to use them.

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