Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly View Post
Besides let the Euros force these countries to sign. America should be out of all this entanglement

You think europe can convince these countries alone, as you said these countrys are nothing if self interested, the developed world needs a united front if there is any hope to convince them to go along with it, if america does its own thing china will see no reason to listen to the euro's and will do its own thing like america...

If on the other hand pressure is brought to bear on china from america, euro's and other developed countrys they will be convinced to agree to these treaties because it will be in thier self interest...
China signs these things in name only. Not to mention I wouldn't mind pressuring China but we dont have to sign some fancy treaty to do that. America should control its own destiny.