13 year old Girl raped and than stoned for "adultary"

**KrooK** · 11-06-2008, 14:33

And this is what Africans (and hippies) call "Africa should cope with its problems alone. Europeans leave Africa".
Call me racist , call me imperialist - . .. it. 2nd half of XIX century was best time for Africa. Since fall of colonisation most of Africa falls.

**LeftEyeNine** · 11-06-2008, 14:44

Never thought that these people are suffering the fallout of the colonisation times, right?

**Don Corleone** · 11-06-2008, 15:04

I cannot blame the Islamic religion for this act any more than I can blame evangelical protestantism for Fred Phelps, or than I can blame Roman Catholicism (my own belief system) for some of the horror stories we're now hearing about Catholic sponsored orphanages in Ireland. All of which have some technical justification under the rules on the books, but all are gross miscarriages of justice, from the perspective of the vast majorities of the believers, as deliberate misinterpretations of that dogma.

I think it's a horrible, horrible story. But the Hutuus and Tutsis are mostly "Christian". Does that mean the Rwandan genocide was due to Christianity?

I don't think too many of us, even LEN, undrestand Sharia well enough to say this is congruous with the spirit of the law or not. Declaring yourself to be an expert on the intent of a legal system you do not understand makes you look like a simple-minded idiot.

**Koga No Goshi** · 11-06-2008, 22:36

Originally Posted by Don Corleone

I cannot blame the Islamic religion for this act any more than I can blame evangelical protestantism for Fred Phelps, or than I can blame Roman Catholicism (my own belief system) for some of the horror stories we're now hearing about Catholic sponsored orphanages in Ireland. All of which have some technical justification under the rules on the books, but all are gross miscarriages of justice, from the perspective of the vast majorities of the believers, as deliberate misinterpretations of that dogma.

I think it's a horrible, horrible story. But the Hutuus and Tutsis are mostly "Christian". Does that mean the Rwandan genocide was due to Christianity?

I don't think too many of us, even LEN, undrestand Sharia well enough to say this is congruous with the spirit of the law or not. Declaring yourself to be an expert on the intent of a legal system you do not understand makes you look like a simple-minded idiot.

DC wins this thread.

**KrooK** · 11-06-2008, 15:06

And you are claiming that it was Whites who taught them to stone children?

**Andres** · 11-06-2008, 15:08

Originally Posted by KrooK

And you are claiming that it was Whites who taught them to stone children?

Did you read LEN's other posts in this thread, in particular the one I quoted 10 posts ago?

There you will find LEN's opinion on this sad event.

**LittleGrizzly** · 11-06-2008, 15:36

Now what words did uncle Fragony use?

indeed.

ok fine lets look at your words, page 1 of this thread

No I think it's quite safe to attribute it to the muslim faith,

As safe as it is to attribute the holocaust to christianity or germanness ?

If no, inconsistent, if yes then fair enough your consistent but i have to disagree

Damn backroom does not show up in search results!!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...2&postcount=18 (from this link)
But I don't want a muslim president for the same reason I don't want a nazi president

So simply being a muslim is the equivelent of being a nazi?!
and you see nothing wrong with this statement ?!

What if i said i didn't want a white president for the same reason i don't want a nazi president

Hell whites have caused plenty of desruction, and contain the top 2 all time killers... Hitler and Stalin, so theres a good supporting argument there (like theres a good supporting argument about muslims to do with terrorism and sexism ect.) but no amount of supporting arguments change the fact that my statement about not wanting a white president for same reason i don't want a nazi president is a racist statement...

do you see my statement about a white president as racist ?

I will point out that you did say later in the post that most muslims are good, so fair play there...

**Fragony** · 11-06-2008, 15:47

Yeah so? I thought we had already established that there is a certain degree sexual inequality and suspicion in the muslim faith? Am I making that up?

And if I say that I don't want a muslim president for the same reason I don't want a nazi president, ok I can understand the confusion should have added communist as well. I hate totalitarism,

**LittleGrizzly** · 11-06-2008, 16:08

I thought we had already established that there is a certain degree sexual inequality and suspicion in the muslim faith?

Ok firstly not sure what you mean by suspicion, but yes there is sexual inequality in most muslim societys, and there is sexual inequality in the islamic religion but there is in christianity as well, and i assume you wouldn't not vote for a christian for this reason, so it must be to do with muslim societys right ?

there is a certain degree of racism in america, would that stop you from ever voting for an american ?
there is a certain degree of slaughtering innocents, sexism, racism and ignorance in the land dominated by blacks (africa) would that stop you voting for a black man ?

The fact that theres sexual inequality is most muslim states is no reason to generalise muslims... theres sexual ineqaulity and lots of other bad things in most backward states

Ok serious question now, not just trying to catch you out but im genuinely curious...

Lets go back sometime to when pretty much the whole world was sexist and had plenty of other problems...

Hypothetically there is some muslim state which is like our modern day democracys in the west, a muslim voter is having a discussion with his friend and states "i would never vote for a christian" (because of all the backwards christian states and christian individuals he is assuming all christians are about sexual inequality ect.) would his statement be a fair one, or would it be an unfair generalisation of christians ?