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I was thinking about posting this earlier. I couldn't think of a personal thought that adds anything to the story.
Beyond tragic. Outrageous for so many reasons.
Beyond tragic. Outrageous for so many reasons.
I saw this also earlier this week. ... I am so disgusted.
Is this the same sharia law they are wanting to use for Muslims in Britain?
At least she's in a better place now.
This is utterly disgusting and completely reprehensible...
Completely shocking, the fact that the family went to the militants in charge for some kind of protection/law enforcment and got this as thier reward makes it even worse, there is simply no excuse...
Is this the same sharia law they are wanting to use for Muslims in Britain?
Yes, but obviously they can't work outside the laws of britian, so stoning of raped women wouldn't happen...
Is this the same sharia law they are wanting to use for Muslims in Britain?
Yes, but obviously they can't work outside the laws of britian, so stoning of raped women wouldn't happen...
Originally Posted by :
Is this the same sharia law they are wanting to use for Muslims in Britain?
Be careful. Mentioning muslims in any other than a completely positive connotation is grounds for a warning, regardless of the latest bit of savage inhumanity committed under the statutes of the religion of peace.Is this the same sharia law they are wanting to use for Muslims in Britain?
ohh please if anything muslim insults are let slide more than any other, the fact that fragony is still here contributing as usual shows that that is complete rubbish, if there was any kind of special rule against insulting muslims frag would have been gone ages ago, infact if we even punished people for making generalisations about muslims frag would have been gone ages ago.
I think if you want to insult a religion on this forum islam is your best bet, you can push this one alot further than any other, despite the victim mentality you will see from some on this forum in relation to thier own religion...
I think if you want to insult a religion on this forum islam is your best bet, you can push this one alot further than any other, despite the victim mentality you will see from some on this forum in relation to thier own religion...
A shame.
Law of the land I guess.
EDIT: I just noticed this which is sort of ironic. Look next to the topic of all of our posts and the thread topic. They're all smiley faces next to such a tragic phrase!
Law of the land I guess.
EDIT: I just noticed this which is sort of ironic. Look next to the topic of all of our posts and the thread topic. They're all smiley faces next to such a tragic phrase!
horrible 
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger:
Be careful. Mentioning muslims in any other than a completely positive connotation is grounds for a warning, regardless of the latest bit of savage inhumanity committed under the statutes of the religion of peace.
For the second time with an irrestible expectation of being understood: Islam is the religion of pace. Example:Be careful. Mentioning muslims in any other than a completely positive connotation is grounds for a warning, regardless of the latest bit of savage inhumanity committed under the statutes of the religion of peace.
ELLLEEEEEHÜ EKBEEEER !!!111wahedwahedwahed [runs towards the embassy] *BOOOOOM*
Thus, you all "democracy only for my liking" representatives can get rid of some tragic typo you have joyfully exploited for years that you took absolutely no step to understanding who were totally strangers to you before 9/11.Holy ****, some girl was raped and stoned to death of her "adultery crime". What have you smoked so hard that you are trying to make something out of this which is only suitable for free-hosted hate fora run by skinny, BDSM addict neurotics or worked-out-enough-to-shrink-his-skull level steroid-freak quasi-Nazi meatheads ?
Would your reaction be still the same if a bunch of Catholics did the same and replied "Father told us to" when asked about it? Would you still be aiming at atheism if the same horrible bizarreness was conducted by some atheists who would say "there's no God up there, we are" afterwards ?
I've been living for 25 years in a country of Muslim majority where you have to hear "ezan" 5 times a day, would hesitate to drink alcohol in the open when it is Ramadan and the prices of livestock rise when Fest of Sacrifice comes by, and I've never seen this being advised or administered to be done should such a stance occur, nor was before me.
In that continent named Africa which was (if not still is) war-waged by democracy-monger West to exploit and dominate for centuries, what is so right with anything else that such an act can be eligible to be your toy to play with screaming "look it's teh religion of mages/faces/traces/genesis" or whatever around ?
How come you can not ask yourself "why do I wear blinders of a horse while I possess the wealth to fly over or dig beneath if I'd wish to" ? Maybe since it is easier to love your guns and point at whom you dislike at first sight?
Yeah, baby, totally intellectual. In a cool way.
Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine:
For the second time with an irrestible expectation of being understood: Islam is the religion of pace. Example:
Holy ****, some girl was raped and stoned to death of her "adultery crime". What have you smoked so hard that you are trying to make something out of this which is only suitable for free-hosted hate fora run by skinny, BDSM addict neurotics or worked-out-enough-to-shrink-his-skull level steroid-freak quasi-Nazi meatheads ?
Would your reaction be still the same if a bunch of Catholics did the same and replied "Father told us to" when asked about it? Would you still be aiming at atheism if the same horrible bizarreness was conducted by some atheists who would say "there's no God up there, we are" afterwards ?
I've been living for 25 years in a country of a Muslim majortiy where you have to hear "ezan" 5 times a day, would hesitate to drink in the open when it is Ramadan and the prices of livestock rise when Fest of Sacrifice comes by, and I've never seen this being advised or administered to be done should such a stance occur, nor was before me.
In that continent named Africa which was (if still not is) war-waged by democracy-monger West to exploit and dominate for centuries, what is so right with anything else that such an act can be eligible to be your toy to play with "look it's teh religion of mages/faces/traces/genesis" or whatever ?
How come you can not ask yourself "why do I wear blinders of a horse while I possess the wealth to fly over or dig beneath if I'd wish to" ? Maybe since it is easier to love your guns and point at whom you dislike at first sight?
Yeah, baby, totally intellectual. In a cool way.
ThisFor the second time with an irrestible expectation of being understood: Islam is the religion of pace. Example:
ELLLEEEEEHÜ EKBEEEER !!!111wahedwahedwahed [runs towards the embassy] *BOOOOOM*
Thus, you all "democracy only for my liking" representatives can get rid of some tragic typo you have joyfully exploited for years that you took absolutely no step to understanding who were totally strangers to you before 9/11.Holy ****, some girl was raped and stoned to death of her "adultery crime". What have you smoked so hard that you are trying to make something out of this which is only suitable for free-hosted hate fora run by skinny, BDSM addict neurotics or worked-out-enough-to-shrink-his-skull level steroid-freak quasi-Nazi meatheads ?
Would your reaction be still the same if a bunch of Catholics did the same and replied "Father told us to" when asked about it? Would you still be aiming at atheism if the same horrible bizarreness was conducted by some atheists who would say "there's no God up there, we are" afterwards ?
I've been living for 25 years in a country of a Muslim majortiy where you have to hear "ezan" 5 times a day, would hesitate to drink in the open when it is Ramadan and the prices of livestock rise when Fest of Sacrifice comes by, and I've never seen this being advised or administered to be done should such a stance occur, nor was before me.
In that continent named Africa which was (if still not is) war-waged by democracy-monger West to exploit and dominate for centuries, what is so right with anything else that such an act can be eligible to be your toy to play with "look it's teh religion of mages/faces/traces/genesis" or whatever ?
How come you can not ask yourself "why do I wear blinders of a horse while I possess the wealth to fly over or dig beneath if I'd wish to" ? Maybe since it is easier to love your guns and point at whom you dislike at first sight?
Yeah, baby, totally intellectual. In a cool way.
This just screams for intercultural dialogue we can really learn from eachother.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
This just screams for intercultural dialogue we can really learn from eachother.
What these men did is deplorable and has no place in society. LEN is completely right. Blaming an entire religon for these kind of things is very stupid. You fail to look at the politics and poverty which propels people to do this. Does Islam have some house cleaning to do? Yes it does but to villify an entire religon is laughable and to do so rejects many of the other factors which causes these things some of which the West has had a rather large hand in.This just screams for intercultural dialogue we can really learn from eachother.
At least the crowd tried to intervene.
My assumption is that it was that militia members who raped the girl and the best way to cover it up was to shoot the victim.
I think we should sort at Afghanistan first though...
My assumption is that it was that militia members who raped the girl and the best way to cover it up was to shoot the victim.
I think we should sort at Afghanistan first though...
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
What these men did is deplorable and has no place in society. LEN is completely right. Blaming an entire religon for these kind of things is very stupid. You fail to look at the politics and poverty which propels people to do this. Does Islam have some house cleaning to do? Yes it does but to villify an entire religon is laughable and to do so rejects many of the other factors which causes these things some of which the West has had a rather large hand in.
No I think it's quite safe to attribute it to the muslim faith, the sexual discrimination just varies, to dismiss the archaic nature of muslim society's, that is really laughable.What these men did is deplorable and has no place in society. LEN is completely right. Blaming an entire religon for these kind of things is very stupid. You fail to look at the politics and poverty which propels people to do this. Does Islam have some house cleaning to do? Yes it does but to villify an entire religon is laughable and to do so rejects many of the other factors which causes these things some of which the West has had a rather large hand in.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
No I think it's quite safe to attribute it to the muslim faith, the sexual discrimination just varies, to dismiss the archaic nature of muslim society's, that is really laughable.
Some muslim societies but not all. Just like some catholics like to touch little boys genitals and some evangelicals want to kill the homos. The reason the west has not been subjected to this is because we are on average better off and more educated. Improvised people always look to the LCD for hope.No I think it's quite safe to attribute it to the muslim faith, the sexual discrimination just varies, to dismiss the archaic nature of muslim society's, that is really laughable.
Originally Posted by :
At least the crowd tried to intervene.
Yes but they were obviously not muslims .At least the crowd tried to intervene.
Also it is obvious the father and daughter were not muslims either because if they were then they would have known what the militia called law , unless of course they wanted to get the daughter stoned to death .
Originally Posted by :
I think it's quite safe to attribute it to the muslim faith
Well thats a surprise isn't itI think it's quite safe to attribute it to the muslim faith
Originally Posted by Fragony:
No I think it's quite safe to attribute it to the muslim faith, the sexual discrimination just varies, to dismiss the archaic nature of muslim society's, that is really laughable.
Dude. The homeland of the Catholic religion used to have laws that whether or not a woman was raped was contingent upon whether she was wearing tight jeans or a revealing skirt...No I think it's quite safe to attribute it to the muslim faith, the sexual discrimination just varies, to dismiss the archaic nature of muslim society's, that is really laughable.
Must be Muslim lawmakers in Italy.
Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi:
Dude. The homeland of the Catholic religion used to have laws that whether or not a woman was raped was contingent upon whether she was wearing tight jeans or a revealing skirt...
Must be Muslim lawmakers in Italy.
When was the last stoning in Italy?Dude. The homeland of the Catholic religion used to have laws that whether or not a woman was raped was contingent upon whether she was wearing tight jeans or a revealing skirt...
Must be Muslim lawmakers in Italy.
Originally Posted by The Black Ship:
When was the last stoning in Italy?
That's not the point. If you want to blame a system of faith for the level of sexism it imparts into society, Christianity has its own problems.When was the last stoning in Italy?
Koga you are going the wrong way about it , if you want to challenge the "its a muslim thing" posts simply ask what exactly is the sharia law on this sort of thing , what sort of provisions are there and how on earth could this incident be sanctioned under those provisions .
When those posters come up with either a complete blank or some obvious fabrication then it demonstrates that they are talking bollox .
When those posters come up with either a complete blank or some obvious fabrication then it demonstrates that they are talking bollox .
Originally Posted by Tribesman:
Koga you are going the wrong way about it , if you want to challenge the "its a muslim thing" posts simply ask what exactly is the sharia law on this sort of thing , what sort of provisions are there and how on earth could this incident be sanctioned under those provisions .
When those posters come up with either a complete blank or some obvious fabrication then it demonstrates that they are talking bollox .
It hardly needs challenging... I just like pointing out the hypocrisy of it.Koga you are going the wrong way about it , if you want to challenge the "its a muslim thing" posts simply ask what exactly is the sharia law on this sort of thing , what sort of provisions are there and how on earth could this incident be sanctioned under those provisions .
When those posters come up with either a complete blank or some obvious fabrication then it demonstrates that they are talking bollox .
Perhaps but blaming every muslim or the religion itself is a cop out for people who dont want to address the actual issues.
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
Perhaps but blaming every muslim or the religion itself is a cop out for people who dont want to address the actual issues.
Strike just got a hole in one. :)Perhaps but blaming every muslim or the religion itself is a cop out for people who dont want to address the actual issues.
Striker Woods.
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
Perhaps but blaming every muslim or the religion itself is a cop out for people who dont want to address the actual issues.
It is not a cop out; it is a prudent suggestion. Perhaps but blaming every muslim or the religion itself is a cop out for people who dont want to address the actual issues.
Changing religious dogma to reflect the fact that women, children, gays and other minorities are in fact human beings that cannot simply be slaughtered at will like livestock is far easier than reversing poverty or disenfranchisement. The existence of negative social issues does not excuse the widespread abuse of women and other minorities within the muslim world. These stories are just the symptoms of a system that keeps millions practically enslaved, with no voice and no power. Sure not all muslims are eager to cut heads, but most (who are allowed to have an opinion) support this system of abuse.
In contrast, Left eye brought up the Catholic Church, which also operates in nations of abject poverty and social upheaval. However, despite his desperate attempt to achieve parity by bringing up the sex scandals, the Catholic Church actually acts as a peaceful force as opposed to just claiming to be one. Compare Sunday mass in any church to what's preached in thousands of madrassas around the globe.
*And before someone tries to turn this into a Christianity vs islam debate; I only brought up the Catholic comparison to demonstrate that religions operating in poor regions of the world do not automatically sanction violence. Hinduism could largely take its place as well. I'm sorry to say, but islam has a distinct problem, and it cannot all be blamed on mitigating social issues.
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger:
Sure not all muslims are eager to cut heads, but most (who are allowed to have an opinion) support this system of abuse.
On what do you base this? I've known lots of Muslims. What you are talking about is their version of fundamentalist extremists who live in the mountains or in a couple of the really extreme regimes. Have you ever been to Lebanon? Or UAE? Or Bahrain? Egypt maybe? If you go around with a camera trying to see some cool beheadings you'll be pretty disappointed.Sure not all muslims are eager to cut heads, but most (who are allowed to have an opinion) support this system of abuse.
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
Some muslim societies but not all. Just like some catholics like to touch little boys genitals and some evangelicals want to kill the homos. The reason the west has not been subjected to this is because we are on average better off and more educated. Improvised people always look to the LCD for hope.
And yet here we are having honor killings in western society's, makes you wonder, what drives them.Some muslim societies but not all. Just like some catholics like to touch little boys genitals and some evangelicals want to kill the homos. The reason the west has not been subjected to this is because we are on average better off and more educated. Improvised people always look to the LCD for hope.
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