So, what next for Americans

[Idaho]

The best thing you and your country can do is lead the way on a grown up attitude to drug use. The world's prisons are overflowing and criminal gangs have never been richer. Sort it out!

[Strike For The South]

The best thing you and your country can do is lead the way on a grown up attitude to drug use. The world's prisons are overflowing and criminal gangs have never been richer. Sort it out!

agreed it should all be legal

[CountArach]

agreed it should all be legal

Yeah... errr... good luck with getting that through...

Don, I would say that looking at things from the long-term perspective is the best thing that can be done for your country. For example, if you get a tax increase this year, accept that it is going towards the greater good of your community in the form of infrastructure. Things that can build your economy in a more Interventionist state.

[Devastatin Dave]

Yeah... errr... good luck with getting that through...

Don, I would say that looking at things from the long-term perspective is the best thing that can be done for your country. For example, if you get a tax increase this year, accept that it is going towards the greater good of your community in the form of infrastructure. Things that can build your economy in a more Interventionist state.

HAHAHAHA!!! Good one, oh, wait, you're being serious....

[Xiahou]

Don, I would say that looking at things from the long-term perspective is the best thing that can be done for your country. For example, if you get a tax increase this year, accept that it is going towards the greater good of your community in the form of infrastructure. Things that can build your economy in a more Interventionist state.

Yes, it will go to infrastructure.... oh and into my pocket. That should make you feel better Don. If your taxes go up, some of it will be going straight into my wallet.

[Hooahguy]

Yeah... errr... good luck with getting that through...

Don, I would say that looking at things from the long-term perspective is the best thing that can be done for your country. For example, if you get a tax increase this year, accept that it is going towards the greater good of your community in the form of infrastructure. Things that can build your economy in a more Interventionist state.

isnt that communism?

[Koga No Goshi]

isnt that communism?

Yeah. Police are communist. Having a military is communist. Having a government at all is communist. Schools are communist. Foreign aid to Israel that we all have to pay for in taxes is communist.

By the standard you are using, anyhow.

[Hooahguy]

Foreign aid to Israel is not communism b/c its not for the common good of this country by your standards.

[Koga No Goshi]

Foreign aid to Israel is not communism b/c its not for the common good of this country by your standards.

Where did I make the distinction of "this country?"

If we talk about what's good for the whole community... the whole community might be democracy, or western culture, or first world nations, or insert your grouping really.

Calling money being spent on something YOU DON'T LIKE "Communist" is ridiculous, it gets into the realm of completely meaningless because then everything can be called Communist if taxmoney pays for it and not everyone wants it. Israel is most certainly SUBSIDIZED by the United States. If Israel were a single mom instead of a country in the Middle East would the same arguments be used to justify sending tax money to her?

Think not.

[CountArach]

isnt that communism?

Errr... speaking about a community is Communist now?

[Hosakawa Tito]

agreed it should all be legal decriminalized

Fixed.

[Ice]

Fixed.

It really depends on the drug.

For example cannabis should be outright legalized and regulated like alcohol.

For harder drugs such as cocaine and such, I'd say yes decriminalization is the best option.

[El Diablo]

Excuse my ignorance as I am not an American, nor have I paid that much attention to the election.

But this kind of disturbed me...

Now that election season is over, I am hesitant to praise or criticize Obama until he actually does something as President of the United States. Only then we shall see what direction America will take, and whether it will be the same direction that America should take.

Should you not know WHAT the new POTUS has planned? How can you chose one candidate over another unless you know what they have planned? Their stance on Iraq and the world ecomonic crisis for example? Otherwise any election must surely must turn into a popularity contest with out any substance?

Obviously politicans lie, or at the least stretch the truth so that maybe what EMFM meant. Does he withhold 100% support till he sees how many promises BHO will keep.

[Spino]

But this kind of disturbed me...

Should you not know WHAT the new POTUS has planned? How can you chose one candidate over another unless you know what they have planned? Their stance on Iraq and the world ecomonic crisis for example? Otherwise any election must surely must turn into a popularity contest with out any substance?

Welcome to the post-war generation American landscape! Please enjoy our fine assortment of melamine tainted candies made in China. We hope you enjoy your stay!

[Koga No Goshi]

Otherwise any election must surely must turn into a popularity contest with out any substance?

Getting upset about this after three presidential campaigns of "he's a guy you could have a beer with" and "WOW she's so down to earth I could just have lunch with her" is a bit late, you know.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Should you not know WHAT the new POTUS has planned?

I do. That is what I based my position on in the election campaign. With his victory, I am inclined to withdraw my moral support for the other candidate and see what Obama does. Why don't we see what legislation actually goes through before we judge the Obama Presidency?

I am making the distinction between "campaign" and "Presidency" in this case. Nothing more. We should wait until he does something as President before praising him as Obamamessiah - and we should wait until he does something before we begin detracting him.

The point I am trying to make is the old adage, that actions speak louder than words.

[Koga No Goshi]

I do. That is what I based my position on in the election campaign. With his victory, I am inclined to withdraw my support for the other candidate and give Obama a chance.

I'm seriously not trying to be rude here, but I find this a really bizarre statement coming from someone who isn't American. Do you have a house here and live here part of the year or something? This statement just seems really odd from someone who isn't a citizen and doesn't vote here.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'm seriously not trying to be rude here, but I find this a really bizarre statement coming from someone who isn't American. Do you have a house here and live here part of the year or something? This statement just seems really odd from someone who isn't a citizen and doesn't vote here.

No, you don't understand me. I have no influence over Obama or his victory, and why shouldn't I, as a person - not a voter, just a person - give Obama a chance in my view to see if I end up liking his Presidency or not? The influence of the American election isn't limited to America, you know. Guess what is at the top of the Die Welt website right now?

[Ice]

I'm seriously not trying to be rude here, but I find this a really bizarre statement coming from someone who isn't American. Do you have a house here and live here part of the year or something? This statement just seems really odd from someone who isn't a citizen and doesn't vote here.

He lives in Germany and Canada I believe.

[Devastatin Dave]

Excuse my ignorance as I am not an American, nor have I paid that much attention to the election.

But this kind of disturbed me...



Should you not know WHAT the new POTUS has planned? How can you chose one candidate over another unless you know what they have planned? Their stance on Iraq and the world ecomonic crisis for example? Otherwise any election must surely must turn into a popularity contest with out any substance?

Obviously politicans lie, or at the least stretch the truth so that maybe what EMFM meant. Does he withhold 100% support till he sees how many promises BHO will keep.

Welcome to the mindset of the Oamamania lovefest; Let's elect a guy who "talks great for a black guy" as Joe Biden, his VP said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxWSVXZVR4c , and we know nothing about even though by the age of 47, he's already wrote 2 autobiagraphies about himself!!! No, this guy isn't arrogant or borderline sociopath!!! This empty suit would have been exposed if the leftist media wasn't spunking all over themselves to get him elected.

[Koga No Goshi]

Way to answer the OT, Dave...

DC, was my answer sufficiently nonpartisan?

[Don Corleone]

Way to answer the OT, Dave...

DC, was my answer sufficiently nonpartisan?

Yes, I think you were making an honest effort, and you know, I welcome the chance to be proven wrong (in terms of my beliefs leading up to this morning). I hope the next 4 years are about a more centralized, interventionist government that uses its power for the good of its citizens. I will state that it's a two way street. If the administration wants my continued hope and belief, they have to offer just cause for it. It's one thing for me to be a hopeful optimist. It's another to expect me to just quietly turn into a doormat.

I will say the choice of Rham Emmanuel as Obama's chief of staff doesn't give me warm fuzzies about 'reaching out'. The man is bright, disciplined and effective, but he's about as partisan as they come. At the same time, Obama's short list of Treasury secretaries gives me hope that Obama intends to reform Wall Street, not destroy it.

[Gregoshi]

Welcome to the mindset of the Oamamania lovefest...

Cheer up Dave. You know what they say...

[Devastatin Dave]

Cheer up Dave. You know what they say...

Nothing makes me happier than a wonderful song during a cruxifiction. Thanks!!!

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Now that election season is over, I am hesitant to praise or criticize Obama until he actually does something as President of the United States. Only then we shall see what direction America will take, and whether it will be the same direction that America should take.

EDIT: This post was taken the wrong way. Yes, I do know what both candidates had planned. But McCain is done, and nothing is going to change that, so we might as well see what Obama is going to do - not talk about or promise, but do.