Clarification please?

[Devastatin Dave]

Since Bush was called the "Chimp" all these years, among other less flattering things, will we have the same leniancy for the Chosen One? Will we be allowed the same extreme latitude on insulting the former President with the new guy or will no criticism be allowed without being branded "racist"? I guess we will find out?

I have this strange feeling that there will be a double standard. Call me a skeptic. Here's the test....


The new Chimp has named Rohm Emanual as his Chief of Staff. Is this a sign of things to come in the Chimp's administration?

[Koga No Goshi]

Since Bush was called the "Chimp" all these years, among other less flattering things, will we have the same leniancy for the Chosen One? Will we be allowed the same extreme latitude on insulting the former President with the new guy or will no criticism be allowed without being branded "racist"? I guess we will find out?

I have this strange feeling that there will be a double standard. Call me a skeptic. Here's the test....


The new Chimp has named Rohm Emanual as his Chief of Staff. Is this a sign of things to come in the Chimp's administration?

When Obama is as demonstrably unintelligent as Bush, treating him the same will be seen as appropriate.

If Obama ever says "it [the constitution] is just a g-d piece of paper", have a field day.

Till then ... yup, don't see what appropriate reason you could have for saying that.

[Lemur]

Why is it that the only time I ever read or hear President Bush referred to as "chimp" is when a rightwing person wants to say something about Obama?

DevDave, if you want to find an insult that actually gets used on President Bush, try "Shrub." That's one that you will actually come across.

But why do you feel you need cover to refer to our first black President as a monkey? Surely you can do that without needing any excuse or protection.

[Devastatin Dave]

Why is it that the only time I ever read or hear President Bush referred to as "chimp" is when a rightwing person wants to say something about Obama?

DevDave, if you want to find an insult that actually gets used on President Bush, try "Shrub." That's one that you will actually come across.

But why do you feel you need cover to refer to our first black President as a monkey? Surely you can do that without needing any excuse or protection.

Again the double standard....
Thanks for proving my point.

[Lemur]

Again the double standard....
Thanks for proving my point.

You don't actually read anything I write, I take it, just hit some sort of macro on your keyboard that generates a standardized troll response?

[Koga No Goshi]

Why? Mr Obama looks very much like a Chimp as the current Chimp. Why is it wrong to call one leader a chimp and not another? Have you heard the guy speak without his teleprompter? Why must I refrain from criticising Obama out of your personal sensibilities? Did you provide the same luxery for me and the people I support?

You know why, you're just being sarcastic and obtuse. Drawing comparisons between African Americans and monkeys has a very specific, biologically racist history in America.

And comparing Bush to Obama in speaking.... dear god. Seriously, get a better tack than that if you're going to troll.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Why is it that the only time I ever read or hear President Bush referred to as "chimp" is when a rightwing person wants to say something about Obama?

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

[Devastatin Dave]

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Thank you

[Hooahguy]

i dont see why we cant call him "chimp." its a free country. we can call him whatever we want. but whether it is right to call him that, even though he doesnt really look like one, is the question.

[Koga No Goshi]

Americans who go around calling black men "chimps" mean a certain thing by it. And that's understood.

Several people around here would call me wildly partisan, and yet I don't refer to Bush as 'the chimp.' If you have some issue with his speaking skills or specific policies that's fine.... but I believe this specific faux outrage over "double standard" is a thinly veiled racebait troll.

[Dutch_guy]

Since Bush was called the "Chimp" all these years, among other less flattering things, will we have the same leniancy for the Chosen One? Will we be allowed the same extreme latitude on insulting the former President with the new guy or will no criticism be allowed without being branded "racist"? I guess we will find out?

Why would you even consider calling your new president a chimp ? Just because it happened to the most unpopular president in your history, or just because you can ?

[Devastatin Dave]

When Obama is as demonstrably unintelligent as Bush, treating him the same will be seen as appropriate.

If Obama ever says "it [the constitution] is just a g-d piece of paper", have a field day.

Till then ... yup, don't see what appropriate reason you could have for saying that.

Why? Mr Obama looks very much like a Chimp as the current Chimp. Why is it wrong to call one leader a chimp and not another? Have you heard the guy speak without his teleprompter? Why must I refrain from criticising Obama out of your personal sensibilities? Did you provide the same luxery for me and the people I support?

[Spino]

Since Bush was called the "Chimp" all these years, among other less flattering things, will we have the same leniancy for the Chosen One? Will we be allowed the same extreme latitude on insulting the former President with the new guy or will no criticism be allowed without being branded "racist"? I guess we will find out?

I have this strange feeling that there will be a double standard. Call me a skeptic. Here's the test....

The new Chimp has named Rohm Emanual as his Chief of Staff. Is this a sign of things to come in the Chimp's administration?

Well he's already got the big ears down. Bush had the chimp-like upper lip but the haters still had to Photoshop his ears to make them appear more chimp-like.

Personally I prefer having Obama referred to as Barack Hussein Marx... for the Muslim Commie double whammy. Is it fair? Nope. But all's fair in love & war.

Why is it that the only time I ever read or hear President Bush referred to as "chimp" is when a rightwing person wants to say something about Obama?

DevDave, if you want to find an insult that actually gets used on President Bush, try "Shrub." That's one that you will actually come across.

But why do you feel you need cover to refer to our first black President as a monkey? Surely you can do that without needing any excuse or protection.

You have got to be f'ing kidding me! Were you on a mental sabbatical when Bush hating was all the rage? Was your evil twin/alternate universe double posting for you all those years? Over the last 8 years I've lost track of the number of caricatures and photoshopped pics of Bush depicted as a chimpanzee that have hit the net. Political cartoons, photoshopped pics, insulting references in forum posts. I can even recall there was some angry young Orgah from Germany who had a photoshopped 'monkey Bush' in his sig. You need to be more careful when applying a double standard...

But don't take my word for it... Google it!

Bush Monkey = Results 1 - 10 of about 950,000 for bush monkey. (0.11 seconds)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+chimpanzee

Bush Monkey Pics = Results 1 - 20 of about 579,000 for bush monkey. (0.04 seconds)
http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Bush Chimpanzee = Results 1 - 10 of about 589,000 for bush chimpanzee. (0.11 seconds)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+chimpanzee

Bush Chimpanzee Pics = Results 1 - 20 of about 93,800 for bush chimpanzee. (0.05 seconds)
http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

[Koga No Goshi]

We are talking about someone who answered a question about what sovereignty means in the 21st century by defining the word sovereignty, Spino.

I mean, c'mon. Let's not pretend implications on Bush's quickness of wit were merely irrational, emotional hate.

[Kralizec]

For better or worse, mocking a black person by suggesting he looks like a monkey will inevitably lead many to think that the author has racist intentions because of historical reasons. No matter how much you insist that it was really about his ears.

Any good cartoonist will always wonder how people will interpet it before submitting a drawing.

Compare the "lipstick on a pig" comment.

[Proletariat]

Just calling him a chimp isn't that big of a deal to me, but unless the guy turns out to be a real moron of a president it's not really gonna hold any water. You'll just get a lot of attention from self-righteous anti-racists who get off on pointing out 'biologically racist history in America.'

Seems kind of like a pointless fight to me, but not really a big deal.

[Koga No Goshi]

Just calling him a chimp isn't that big of a deal to me, but unless the guy turns out to be a real moron of a president it's not really gonna hold any water. You'll just get a lot of attention from self-righteous anti-racists who get off on pointing out 'biologically racist history in America.'

Seems kind of like a pointless fight to me, but not really a big deal.

Right, it's not a big deal to you, so leave it to us "self-righteous anti-racists."